Blue roans are one of the strongest crosses there is-Even in places like VA .We have some simm xShort blues, and they really improved upon both the sire and dam sometimes the bull was Simm, sometimes the cow-So its not just cuz I do some horns, I like other cattle too-Sultan is about as proven for CE as they get.Jakes proud Jazz-DS or not is one of the most widely used bulls of any breed for CE-based upon the different breeds-cows he has been used on. O0