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BAM

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I have some Bar Ext cows that I want to use a  Simmental bull on, they are small framed so I would like to add a little frame. The bulls I have are CMS Dream On, 3C Macho and Maximus . I have been saving them, never seen any crosses, got a good feeling any of the three would work,I'm just looking for input from people who know.I'm trying to produce better club calf mommas.
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(welcome) BAM!!!!

I'll let the people that know Simmental's better than me respond.

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I really like dream on and 3C macho, but i i like dream on better and he will add some frame  and produce very thick and muscular. He wont add any bone
 

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If you can get heifers out of the maximus mating then you will have some sure fire clubby mommies that will be hard to beat. However, the bull calves out of him are usually average from what Ive seen. Dream is probably a bit better on purebreds or halfblood simis than on angus but again depends on mating and what the female has. From what ive seen of the Macho they are usually pretty framy and easy keeping cattle that are overall nice calves. One other option that you could consider would be Built Right. Alot of breeders around my area (NC) are using him and the calves get better every day they are around.
 

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have you looked at Pohlman's bull DJ Saluation?

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he's out of RR Warehouse & a Meyer 734 x Black Max cow

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Also maybe Sinclairs bull Star Power. He is a Dream On/SVF Sheza Star.
 

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BAM

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The three bulls I mentioned are in my tank, I would rather use them than buy more semen.
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I like the Dream On cattle I've seen but most of them are PB.  Macho could give you more size and thickness though.   
 

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I'm a huge fan of SimAngus females but I'm not sure I'd go Dream On X Angus.

Somebody else described it best when they said he's being used so heavily in Simmental because he brought some of the strengths of PB Angus to the table for the purebred operations.  Breeding him to Angus would seem to be a bit redundant.

Macho vs Maximus would be a decision I make by just grabbing the first cane I found and going with it.
 

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3c macho and dream on are proven to sharpen up your heard... they will both throw moderate to bigger framed calves...
 

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Check with Ken & Jeanne White in New York.  http://www.SimmeValley.com
The offspring of their bull, Macho as U has been tearing up the circuit in the East.  The Macho calves swept the NY State Fair.  I think for breeding to Angus cows with the hope of producing functional cows, he would be your best bet.    http://www.simmevalley.com/macho.htm
 

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JSchroeder said:
Breeding him to Angus would seem to be a bit redundant.

Yes it would i gusse i didnt know what the Bar Ext bloodline were... shame on me  ;D Yes Dream on works best on simmy cows.  i do not have any experince with maxi.
 

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I think, I have a game plan, I'll use Macho on the Angus cows then breed the heifers to Dream On.  How does that sound?
 

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That's a good idea on using Macho before Dream On. Hopefully you will get some nice females out of him. Id still use Maximus on a couple and compare the two.
 
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