Iowans, who takes the GOP nod? Non-cattle

With the caucus just around the corner, Who is your pick to take the GOP nod?

I think Ron Paul had a good shot of winning but won't receive support to get the nomination for president.  I don't know if he could run on the libertarian ticket and get enough support to win if he can't get the GOP ticket.

I think a lot of us in the cattle business see a lot of ourselves in Paul.  A guy that wants to cut spending, no national healthcare, and get back to the fundamentals of the constitution.

Please, some other state take this first in the nation status away from Iowa.  The telephone rings constantly.  People bicker constantly.  The news media can't speak of anything else.  Idiots from Utah think we only pick corn.  Please, some other state take this load of bull chit. My observations lead me to these thoughts:  Huntsman is a pompous loser, Gingrich is a hypocrite, Santorum is probably the nicest guy (but as green as fresh cut alfalfa and is too conservative for IA's socialistic and progressive climate),  Paul is a lunatic that can't understand world politics, Perry is a poser who will say anything, Bachmann is riding the Iowa progressive card and will split with Paul.  Romney wins Iowa for lack of a better candidate.

Glenstory said:

 Idiots from Utah think we only pick corn.  Please, some other state take this load of bull chit.

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Isn't there pigs up there toooooo? ;D

Look for Ron Paul.  I know there are a lot of stories out there about his suspicious supporters and such but I have never met these people.  A lot of the independents that vote for him that I know are Republicans but they dont like registering for a party year around but always vote republican.  Ron Paul people are passionate and he has a great ground game.

How could the right gain 25% overnight?

Glenstory, I am an Iowan, and I think you summed it up very well. I sure can't argue with you.

In my opinion Ron Paul will split the vote if he runs as an independent. I think any one of them will be superior to Obama. The real challange will be for the Repubs to get back the Senate. Without that the presidential may be a minor point in a lot of aspects.jmo

I support Gingrich for one reason and one reason only.  He runs ZERO negative ads. He talks about what needs to be done and what he will do. I have NO idea what slick Romney will do because all he does is run attack adds and does not talk about what his plan is.  I have been a conservative all my life and will be but am sick of the whole process and they whole field on both sides.  They only say what they think people want to hear to get elected and then become different people.  The only benefit for us having the "first in the nation" election event is we can sit back and tolerate these pathetic excuses for public servants for a little while and then laugh all the way to the bank with the money they and the clammering "main stream" media pay our local radio stations and TV stations for adds, gas stations, restaurants, and motels. 
When it comes to congress, I say the only way we will get TRUE public servants is to propose term limits for Senators and Representatives.  Career politicians only protect there own axx and don't do what is right for the country.

IMO the sad truth of the the matter is that not one of these canidates can come close to beating Obama. Is this the best that the party or for that matter the country has to offer up? Sad just sad.

Vote for someone that is not a repub or dem at the local level and they will disappear quickly.

It is the voters fault, not the politicians.

knabe said:

It is the voters fault, not the politicians.

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Knabe please explain your thoughts, I am not sure I follow your train of thought here. I guess that I agree that voters need to be better educated, but are you saying that the politician just does what they think the voter wants or that the majority of the voters are just so dumb that they just don't know what they are doing?

I agree with one of the posts from above; "is this the best we can find to run", after all it is a thankless stressful job and no one in there right mind wants the job, but somewhere there has to be a leader that has the "juevous" to stand up for our constitution and do what is best for this country. Most of the potential candidates are to green, socialist, or power hungry for my liking. I would like to see Newt or Ron Paul in the end and I don't like either one very much.

Mtnman said:

knabe said:

It is the voters fault, not the politicians.

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Knabe please explain your thoughts.

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The line above it.  If you vote for people who are not affiliated with D or R then they will go away.

Really its really simple. 

knabe said:

How could the right gain 25% overnight?

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Sorry Knabe I need some clarification.  Do you mean how could they gain a 25% share overnight from independents?  Because if you do they didn't gain it overnight it has always been there they are just people who don't like registering to a party because it makes the party think they will automatically get their vote.  Also in Iowa if you are a registered party voter you get beyond bombarded with phone calls.  Easily can get two or 3 an hour some nights.  If I missed the mark just let me know.

The right could get 25%more votes if they would clarify their position on abortion and address it with adoption and allow the donating parent the right to set their own rules (choice) rather than let both sided fight over whether gays can adopt .  If someone wants to let gays adopt fine but let people who don't want that to have the same rights and allow straights to adopt.  It's clear both types of relationships have problems.  The donating parents should be allowed to have more say in the matter tHan our stupid government who only seek to undermine the family anyway, but voters will never do it because they will allow themselves to be feared out of any freedom by both the left and right.  Both parties do not have our interests as any sort of a priority.  On the other hand, they know we are to wimpy to boot them out and laugh at our timidity with each law they pass and each election.

The right has continually said they would overturn roe v wade and most people know they would seek to ban abortion and prosecute it as murder.

It's really pointless to say they wouldn't go after mothers just the doctors.  After mothers start doing it the old fashion way with either known natural drugs or mechanical means repubs will never get elected again.  The right has lots of options to go after abortion with love rather than prosecution but they won't do it.  Adoption has lots of problems and several people have posted a little on it including myself.  My greatgrandfather married a woman with two kids and my aunt and uncle adopted .  I know things were pretty challenging at times in both cases.

knabe said:

Mtnman said:

knabe said:

It is the voters fault, not the politicians.

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Knabe please explain your thoughts.

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The line above it.   If you vote for people who are not affiliated with D or R then they will go away.

Really its really simple.   

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Okay, I totally understand that and I agree that they would go away pretty quickly or straighten up and be the party that they are supposed to be. I personally could care less about party affiliation I would just like for someone to stand up and be a leader and not just tell us what we want to hear and not apologize to all the country's around the world for our actions. We may not agree with this person on everything but if they do what they say and put the country first then I can live with that. Yes I would preffer someone that is conservative both fiscally and socially, I believe that our constitution and the bill of rights are how our country is supposed to be governed. There is entirely to much BS that goes on in our government that is considered just part of doing business, we need to make our elected representatives aware that we are fed up with this . I know it's a pipe dream because we are already so corupt that we will never get honest straight forward people to run for office simply because those people do not want to be associated with the scum that now inhabit our nations capitol. Sorry to get on the soap box there, but the republican candidates are horrible and we so desperately need to get rid of our president and it is just very depressing. IMO

Gotcha Knabe, now I understand what you were getting at.  Makes sense, and it does bother me that adoption isn't promoted more.  However in cases where parents are such bad parents their kids need to be taken away, A.) are you ok with the gov taking the kids away?  B.) do those parents lose their right to have a say in where their kids go?  Like your thinking though.

nothing wrong with helping kids. they dont live with their parents forever.

Anyone seen the movie Idiocracy?  That is where the world is headed.  I have enough propaganda to heat my house for a year.  I have answered the telephone at least 20 times this weekend about this stinking' "First in the Nation" nomination process. I have given up and tell them I am supporting Herman Cain, then Sarah Palin, then Donald Trump, then Chris Cristy, then I tell them I'm voting for Pedro.  None of them get it.  Last poll says Romney 24, Paul 22, Santorum 18 with error of 4.5.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

Been handing out a copy of that for a few years now. 

Id say more than half are offended and think I mean them.

Oops, I guess I do.