knabe said:probably going to be a crapshoot as the maternal on IW is so terrible.
afhm said:knabe said:probably going to be a crapshoot as the maternal on IW is so terrible.
I don't know why the IW maternal is so terrible, they make awesome productive cows. I wish I had a 100 of them.
I would say you answered your owne question. The angus probably made them more maternal. My opinion is the ice pick line was a huge promotional success. The popular bulls were used on dang good maternal cows to make great females and continue the promotionsimtal said:afhm said:knabe said:probably going to be a crapshoot as the maternal on IW is so terrible.
I don't know why the IW maternal is so terrible, they make awesome productive cows. I wish I had a 100 of them.
I agree, wasn't exposure's bread and butter IW X comm angus?
JSchroeder said:While I agree about Ice Pick, I've always been told the strange thing was how maternal Irish Whiskey is compared to his sire. If it's just the cows contributing maternal characteristics, why do Heat Wave daughters carry the stigma they do when he's been bred to every maternal powerhouse under the sun?
JSchroeder said:Lumping Irish Whiskey in with his sire is misguided based on everything I've seen and more importantly, from what people much smarter than myself have said.
BTW, I realize there's a bit of chicken and egg thing going on with Collins and maternal bulls but there's also a reason the two most prominent bulls in the Exposure sale last December were Meyer 734 and Irish Whiskey and it's not because Meyer was used on "dang good maternal cows to make great females".