aj
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On their web site.
Loving Shorthorns have catalog
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knabe
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https://www.lovingfarms.com/sale
https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/52cd84_ef179b3da69145f2aeb95113b1d508c9.pdf
Waukaru Optimus 4095
some serious ww 91, yw 116 epd's with high bw epd
same with jsf marquis
https://shorthorn.digitalbeef.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=_animal&file=_animal&animal_registration=4209016
https://shorthorn.digitalbeef.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=_animal&file=_animal&animal_registration=4169554
RyanChandler
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typically a tradeoff between fat (fleshing ability) and performance
aj
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Its pretty hard to blast this outfit about anything. First of all they have a lot of cows. They can produce some great ones. Good solid outfit. Last I knew they even weighed the cows at weaning. How many people in the world do that?
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Look for positive numbers, the higher the percent ranked the better! They don't fall apart as easily when conditions are sub-optimal!beebe said:
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Sorry, higher for me means >50, lower <50, we were not on the same page with this!huntaway said:
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How many people don't do that?aj said:
At weaning, on WW alone, which is the better bull? The 500lbs one out of a 1000lbs cow, or the same weight one out of a 1200lbs cow?
It gives great data over the years without seasonal influences, in droughts the cows and their calves are lighter, the wean weight percentage still gives a good indication of the efficiency of the cow in a peer group, regardless of the season.
That said, I can recall two seasons that I didn't weigh the dams as I early weaned onto pellets, to save the cows in droughts.
aj
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Thousands of good Angus breeders don't don't do that. It may be the next big thang tho. I don't do that.
aj
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The lot 1 bull is interesting to me. How high will he sell dollar wise. Industry leading numbers but he is only eighty some % Shorthorn. So if he was bred to red papered female.......wouldn't the calf be red papered only with a asterisk? That brings in the asterisk question and here we go again on that deal.
mark tenenbaum
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If there were true and absolute justice half of us would be in jail. An asterix isnt the end of the world per se-remember-That the Golds and Loving Cattle are WAY wound up with Enticer-who was not anymore a pure Shorthorn than Rodeo Drive was-It has worked out tho And hats off to Gary Kaper-his breeding is behind some of the all around better ones O0
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I don't hold it against a breeder, many don't do it. I do it to differentiate my herd from the normal, sometimes wonder why I bother?aj said:
Over the last four years have cut my bull selling to disposing of the bulls I have used myself, plus one or two. At three years too, they don't fall apart at that age when they are overused!
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mbigelow said:
knabe
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mark tenenbaum said:
absolute justice and all of us would be in jail. not half.
mark tenenbaum
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That would relate to Enticer and Rodeo having NO Shorthorn in them-pretty close O0
I saw on a facebook post a supplement sheet with heifer pelvic measurements.
How are these measured?
With a range of 170 to 220cm3 and a weight range of 590 to 850 how is this used. Do you ratio weight to area or is there a standardised minimum. what would be acceptable.
If you single trait selected for large pelvic area what would you end up with, I would imagine larger cattle have larger pelvices in general.
How are these measured?
With a range of 170 to 220cm3 and a weight range of 590 to 850 how is this used. Do you ratio weight to area or is there a standardised minimum. what would be acceptable.
If you single trait selected for large pelvic area what would you end up with, I would imagine larger cattle have larger pelvices in general.
