Mad Cow in cali.

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Gargan

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hopefully it will be minimal impact since the authoritites say that the export market should not be effected. I guess, time will tell.
 

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My guess is it will have a negative impact, just like it did in the past. The restrictions that were on the meat that was imported to several countries just got loosend and I'm sure they will tighten them up again, start rejecting whole shipments for any and everything.
I hope not but that is what has happened in the past.
 

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Hopefully since it was a Dairy Cow and BSE cannot be transported through milk it wont effect the market too much...
 

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I would assume that the US is like Canada and that since we are both countries that have had BSE cases, but it is recognized as a very low level prevalence, that the odd case is not unexpected and will be ignored by world markets.  I forget what the exact designation is... also has to do with the quality of our monitoring programs.  Now if there was some sort of out-break with more numbers that would be a different story.
 

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vc said:
My guess is it will have a negative impact, just like it did in the past. The restrictions that were on the meat that was imported to several countries just got loosend and I'm sure they will tighten them up again, start rejecting whole shipments for any and everything.
I hope not but that is what has happened in the past.
I agree, it's always a had a negative effect in the past, even though I'm pretty sure all cases in this country have been dairy?  Dairy industry produces milk but at the end of the day most animals do eventually become hamburger and get mixed with beef cattle.  Japan is a big customer that I don't think  will tolerate this (they haven't in the past).   Once again they will probably close their market to anything over 20 months old.  (Silver lining) So age source verification cattle will still demand a good premium if countries close the market for unverified cattle?  

Grain markets won't slow down for this.  Beef is not driving grain prices, if anything its the other way around (to a limited degree).
 
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if you've got anything to sell-- better get it to the yards.. this great market that everyone loves-- is getting ready to crash.. and tons of people are going out of business- especially those who've been buying $2. feeders for the last 100 days. 

When China and Japan, here of this...  cut goes the cord-- for a long time-- heck they just reopened it from the scare however many years ago...
 

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In 92 there was 32,000 cases of bse and last year there was 36 (worldwide) United states has one freakin cow and the media eats it alive and questions our "food safety"

Also I dont agree with these so called outbreaks not driving the grain markets. There shouldnt be a reason for it to it should yes be the other way around but I dont understand why the last time this happened in 03 or 04 grain markets were down the limit 4 days straight. Wouldnt consider this a big deal though its one cow
 

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The grain market isn't the same as it was in 03 - 04 (not even close).  The fall of 06 things changed in the grain market, that's when volatility and speculation really seemed to takeover.  Corn prices were low $2 range summer of 06 and prices haven't been below $4 since that fall here.  Volatility, speculation, weather, USDA #'s, exports (China), ethanol, dollar not worth anything, - these are the drivers of the grain market.  Reading the DTN grain comments I seldom see anything about livestock being behind any price swing (it used to be).  This country is planting more corn than ever and harvesting more bushels than ever, but we are using more than ever and are exporting alot thanks to the poor value of the dollar.  I'm sad to say but I kind of miss $2 corn, everything was a lot cheaper then.  Farming is more of a gamble than ever and the stakes are getting pretty high. :-\
Export demand and grain prices are the drivers behind the meat market right now (IMO).
 

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The thing to remember and remind people of is that this cow was an isolated case and most likely more of a spontaneous genetic mutant.  There is no link that it was from her food source.

Secondly, and very important, THE SYSTEM WORKED!  She was discovered in a pre rendering inspection.  She never had a chance to enter the food chain.

The media will put as terrible a spin on this as they can because thats what interest people.  The fact the the inspection system worked and she was no threat to the food chain does not make very exciting headlines.

Remember, no one has ever been sick from BSE in the US.  However tens of thousands of people get sick every year from Salmonella and other diseases contracted from playing with their reptile pets.  Maybe the media would like lizards and salamanders to be outlawed!.

Ron

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nate53 said:
The grain market isn't the same as it was in 03 - 04 (not even close).  The fall of 06 things changed in the grain market, that's when volatility and speculation really seemed to takeover.  Corn prices were low $2 range summer of 06 and prices haven't been below $4 since that fall here.  Volatility, speculation, weather, USDA #'s, exports (China), ethanol, dollar not worth anything, - these are the drivers of the grain market.  Reading the DTN grain comments I seldom see anything about livestock being behind any price swing (it used to be).  This country is planting more corn than ever and harvesting more bushels than ever, but we are using more than ever and are exporting alot thanks to the poor value of the dollar.  I'm sad to say but I kind of miss $2 corn, everything was a lot cheaper then.  Farming is more of a gamble than ever and the stakes are getting pretty high. :-\
Export demand and grain prices are the drivers behind the meat market right now (IMO).

Well said!!! couldnt agree more!!
 

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There infact has been 3 cases BSE in humans in the US, granted those 3 individuals were found to have spent allot of time in countries where there was a BSE problem.
South Korean market have stopped selling us beef. The government has not stopped imports, the stores themselves have stopped.
 

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What are every1s thoughts on how this cow became infected? I just read an article that said the cow was NOT infected by contaminated feed.
 

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Clark Club Calves said:
Have they made up found the cows Canadian papers yet?  ;D

I think the grand father of the owner visited Banff on a Senior's bus trip in 1960. That should be a close enough connection to Canada !

I sold embryos to an old vet in Alabama shortly after the first BSE case in Canada. He said to me " What's with your Canadian vets being so G.D. honest. We often see those cows that stagger around, down here, but we always call it Rabies"  I have often wondered if he was serious or basically telling me what he knew.
 

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I heard one goofy report on tv that it wasn't caused by anything thing she ate but it was a mutation. That didn't make sense to me. I know you can't feed bloodmeal and etc any more I know. There was one oddball case a couple years back where some guy was mixing dog food in a least cost feed formula for cattle. This got him fined cause you can use animal by products in pet food.....but not in rations for animals for consumption.
 
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