I saw a some good Hired Man's this fall and from what I saw the linebacker shoulders shouldn't be as big of an issue as everyone thought early on. Not saying he won't ever throw it, but I don't think he will necessarily stamp them that way of you know what I mean. If I had to choose I would use Hired Man over Manchild. Manchild has thrown some good ones, but I think Hired Man is going to be more consistant. For being 3/4 brothers they are really different bulls. I've seen some Manchild's that were just plain bad....