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Re: maternal bulls from Duff/OCC
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2011, 08:51:24 PM »
I just had a couple loads of cows sired by OCC Paxton brought here to the farm from Oklahoma. They had been in severe drought this year as most know. The cows got here and didnt look like much but the calves were really good to my amazement. After watchin them get fat on grass for a month I have yet to see one cow come in heat and the calves have taken off. Paxton is a linebred bull but 4 generations away from 6807. Tim bought him back after a couple of years away. I know semen is available. The cows are plenty moderate for Ohio,some maybe to small, time will tell. I have to say thumbs up for me on the only OCC bull I have been around. I noticed they are not picky on what they eat. Even after being here awhile. They eat nettles, trees, old dormant grass, freshly mowed grass. They are always picking at something different. And there is lots of grass here. Kinda neat to watch. I think they will be very useful once we start are fall rotational grazing. I think I can make it on stockpiled fescue and corn stubble for quite a while
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Re: maternal bulls from Duff/OCC
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2011, 09:10:25 PM »
TG,
You might want to check me, but if I am not mistaken, OCC Paxton is like a 6 frame Ohlde bull!  Even if he isnt quite that big, he is still one of the bigger bulls to ever come out of that program.  Not that I am saying there isnt a place for 6 frame cattle, just he is an outlier for larger frame considering where he comes from.
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Re: maternal bulls from Duff/OCC
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2011, 09:20:08 PM »
You could be right. I will have to look. The cows grandsires are OCC bred as well. That could be why some are smaller I suppose. I could see him being a 6 frame tho. I just thought it was cool they all were actually bred coming out of that drought and in the shape they were in.
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Re: maternal bulls from Duff/OCC
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2011, 11:08:17 PM »
We used outer limits 2 or 3 years in a row really liked his calves had thickness and look with tons of body, if i had to fault him i'd say occasionally the calves were light boned but that could be the cow as well

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Re: maternal bulls from Duff/OCC
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2011, 12:36:04 PM »
Any thoughts about OCC Picture Perfect. He is a bull that Sandeen's own, but that Tim recommended to me to take the place of Legend. Another bull that comes to mind for me is OCC Freestyle of Dean Kephart's. I have 3 first calf heifers that are doing a great job with their first calves, but I wouldn't exactly call them ground sows. Heavy milkers and great dispositions also.

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Re: maternal bulls from Duff/OCC
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2011, 08:49:49 PM »
How good are the udders on the Freestyle females

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Re: maternal bulls from Duff/OCC
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2011, 10:46:07 PM »
How good are the udders on the Freestyle females
They're only heifers, but they look as if they'll hang together. 2 of the heifers dams had great bags, but the other one had an aweful poor bag, so time will tell me a little more, but like I said, I'm happy so far.

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Re: maternal bulls from Duff/OCC
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2011, 10:40:45 AM »
CAB you mentioned Picture Perfect we used hin some sired some really nice bulls and females but not quite as thick as the legends  JMO. If you want to moderate your cow size take a look at the Parker bull on duffs site, seen a lot of good moderate bulls and heifers out of him make good cows with really good udders and great dispositions, he is  4.5 frame at 2400lbs. We have had people tell us the best calves they raised are out of Parker daughters.

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Re: maternal bulls from Duff/OCC
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2011, 12:15:41 PM »
CAB you mentioned Picture Perfect we used hin some sired some really nice bulls and females but not quite as thick as the legends  JMO. If you want to moderate your cow size take a look at the Parker bull on duffs site, seen a lot of good moderate bulls and heifers out of him make good cows with really good udders and great dispositions, he is  4.5 frame at 2400lbs. We have had people tell us the best calves they raised are out of Parker daughters.

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Re: maternal bulls from Duff/OCC
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2011, 12:38:58 PM »
I have had Anchor, Doctor and Eureka , I even had a few Edisons (Big Butt Eddie) daughters in my reg. herd. Really good cows that flesh easy and had good bags. They always bred and calved easy but I eventually phased them out because they would throw some small framed ones every so often and the cattle buyers would hammer em.

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Re: maternal bulls from Duff/OCC
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2011, 07:35:19 AM »
I have had several cows by Legend and Anchor over the years and fertility has not been a problem. Just good solid cattle.

 

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