Rustynail said:
I am sure that your accusations of outcrossing is a great marketing device for you. I am also posative that is has happened, just not on the scale some people would use to their advantage. There a many honest, hardworking Black Angus breeders who have been in it since the breed started who have not done "creative outcrossing" , and it is pretty small of some to make wide blanket statements that covers an entire breed to try to boost sales. Of course that's the way the world is, and you can promote your toy cattle any way you want.
"I am also posative that is has happened"
Yep, a lot of people think that, including some honest, hard working, Black Angus breeders themselves. I know some of those honest, hard working Black Angus breeders & they are the ones saying it. That is why I don't see why it is such a big deal to you. It's sure not a big deal to them.
"There are many honest, hardworking Black Angus breeders who have been in it since the breed started who have not done "creative outcrossing" , and it is pretty small of some to make wide blanket statements that covers an entire breed to try to boost sales."
It's pretty small for an Angus breeder to say that? WOW! I'll be sure to tell them... I think that they are going to be shocked. (lol)
I never said that there were not honest, hard working Black Angus breeders & I'm sure that many have indeed done the best that they can. But, what about every single straw of semen & ever animal that they ever purchased from another breeder who bought those genetics from another & on & on & on & on? You see over the course of time, and especially with the heavy use of AI & especially with heavy use of "popular" AI sires & "breed changers", the blanket can eventually get pretty wide... or maybe even extremely wide. I'm sure that most have tried to do everything the honest way & I never said that they didn't. But, if you look at pictures of Angus in the 1950's & Angus in the 1980's/1990's... it's painfully obvious that something happened. I have an Angus breeder friend who has a 2,200+ lb. Angus cow. How did they get that big in 30 - 40 years, when nothing was anywhere close to that size, 30- 40 years ago? We could always DNA test them & see... that's what the Lowline Angus do...
"Of course that's the way the world is, and you can promote your toy cattle any way you want."
The world likes to call people, & things that they don't like, derogatory names too. As for me, I'm just going to keep on selling these "toys" to Angus & Red Angus breeders. In fact, we've spoken with 2 customers, within the last week, who are going to AI breed approx. a combined 500 head (not Lowline females) this year to Lowline or Lowline cross bulls. They are both serious cattlemen & neither think that crossing with Lowlines will result in "toy cattle". If it makes you feel better, I guess you can keep on calling them "toy cattle", but it will not hurt my feelings because I know better...