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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2021, 10:54:59 AM »
I think there are a lot of native cattle of "beef" lineage that have much more usefulness than the roan "Scotch type" bull pictured.  I wonder how some of the current more moderate, easier fleshing Shorthorn bulls would compare to the better Shorthorn bulls of the past.  I think it would be very interesting to see a side by side comparison of, say, JSF Palermo with Kenmar President 26A.
oakview, you are very right about that. Village Beau would be an extreme example of Heritagerois..sorry...I dont know about Palermo, but there was, to me, an extra nice 26A son down at Haumont.
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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2021, 02:00:14 PM »
What color was the 26a son.
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2021, 06:11:20 AM »
Haumont family has long produced cattle with utility.  Cattle bred at Haumont's have predictable EPD's (something like Keith Lauer) with strength in $CEZ, $BMI, CEM, Stay, Marbling, Milk, etc. that are what many Shorthorns traditionally have been.  With his COI at nearly 10% your bull should breed more predictably than most of the "double cross" bulls that are widely available.  A breeding piece, he is. 

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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2021, 07:05:40 PM »
What color was the 26a son.
Hi aj, he is roan. The resolution is not good on this photo, but you can get the gist of how correct he is.
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2021, 07:25:52 PM »
Haumont family has long produced cattle with utility.  Cattle bred at Haumont's have predictable EPD's (something like Keith Lauer) with strength in $CEZ, $BMI, CEM, Stay, Marbling, Milk, etc. that are what many Shorthorns traditionally have been.  With his COI at nearly 10% your bull should breed more predictably than most of the "double cross" bulls that are widely available.  A breeding piece, he is.
Thank you. He is a fine fellow and just a pleasure to have around.
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Re: More on Native
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2021, 08:15:20 PM »
What color was the 26a son.
Hi aj, he is roan. The resolution is not good on this photo, but you can get the gist of how correct he is.
aj, here is what the Cat 20 bull, Felix, is looking like now. And a picture of his paternal half sib sister. These are both Native also.
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2021, 10:24:28 AM »
Nice cattle!

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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2021, 12:41:22 PM »
Nice cattle!
Thanks, Duncraggon. Im going to sell the Cat 20 bull now that I have the Haumont bull. I can keep those Leader genetics going thru his half sister. Felix is about as grassy as a Shorthorn can be. Since I cross a lot on Galloway for Grassfed, I just dont need that much moderation from the Shorthorn side. Reg # on Felix is 4289695.
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2021, 07:01:10 PM »
Felix has the same long level rump as Cat 20.  Our Catalyst 45 bull from Thieman's had similar proportions.  Cat 45 sired useful females with good udders.  Several of Cat 45's daughters were from the Bi Ru (Bill and Ruth Warters of Allerton, IL) herd that Burke and I purchased.  Cat 45 sired Homeplace Fair Lady from one of the Warters cows; now half of the Homeplace herd descends down from her. 

 

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