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Re: Muridale Raw Hide 6 E
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2019, 11:33:24 AM »
Bulls look like the kind that can put the Shorthorn's back into some relevance in the real beef world. Good cattle!! <beer>

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Re: Muridale Raw Hide 6 E
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2019, 10:01:51 AM »
So, for tenderness and marbling, any suggestion for molecular markers?
Igenity is a good source?
Will analise some animals and wish not expend time and money on non accurate tests.

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Re: Muridale Raw Hide 6 E
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2019, 10:51:36 AM »
Back in the early to mid-2000s, the folks at Waukaru were testing at least some of their bulls with the old GeneStar marker tests - and making that info available to people who were interested. 
Now, as to whether or not those markers were even applicable to Shorthorns, I don't know... though some on this board may.  Are the newer genomic tests applicable to SH... or principally to Angus... I'm presuming that a predominantly AN population was used in formulating those tests...

We did take those genomic test results into consideration  in the past when we were using some Shorthorn sires here.  Waukaru Coppertop 464 had 4 of 6 GeneStar tenderness markers and 2 of 4 marbling gene markers, and got moderate use here for that reason, among others. 
Several of the Angus sires we were using at that same time had 5 or 6 of the 6 tenderness gene markers identified by the GeneStar test.

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Re: Muridale Raw Hide 6 E
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2019, 05:55:18 PM »
Thanks Lucky.
So, if SHO show a better resuly on GeneStar using AA markers, it's superior to blackies!
Also, maybe Waukaru are really poor!.
Will analyse my ones!
Thanks!

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Re: Muridale Raw Hide 6 E
« Reply #19 on: Today at 09:17:28 AM »
CSI-BR,
I'd not then (or now) seen other Shorthorn breeders testing for  or making test results available to the public for the tenderness and marbling gene markers, so I wouldn't say that the Waukaru sires were poor, at all.
Waukaru Coppertop was the 'top of the heap' for genomic value at that time(IMO)... other Waukaru bulls available at that time had 2 of 6 tenderness gene markers and 0 of the 4 marbling gene markers... but no other breeders with AI sires in the ASA AI Sire catalog were displaying tenderness or marbling genomic test results.

 

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