NEED A BOTTLE CALF ASAP!!

txshowlamb · Mar 11, 2009

Anyone know where I can get a bottle calf near San Antonio TX needed ASAP
Thanks Brittney

common sense · Mar 11, 2009

You could try Charlie Phillip in Boerne. He might be able to helpyou out.

txshowlamb · Mar 11, 2009

Any numbers you have I can use? We just lost a calf tonight and she is full of milk
Brittney

farmboy · Mar 11, 2009

go to a dairy and get a bull calf

txshowlamb · Mar 11, 2009

I dont know any dairies around here :/
Brittney

red · Mar 12, 2009

wouldn't use a calf from a dairy. Most lack colostrum from the start & you might bring in problems you don't want. Check w/ local beef producers in your area. Jill could send you one of hers!

Red

kfacres · Mar 12, 2009

I don't usually react in bad taste, BUT I DON"T take to kindly to that....

What do you think we dairy farmers do with our colostrum--- feed it to the cats and dogs??????? We can't sell it, can't do anything with it for atleast 2 or 3 days-- BUT feed it to calves!!!!!!!!!! There are laws against selling milk high in antibodies or known as scc's. The only reason a beef producer would have a bottle calf is due to mom not having milk, dis-owning it, dying, etc... And in those cases, their not going to have colostrum just sitting around ANYWAYS! So a calf will likely not get any, or get artificial colostrum from a bag.
Sure we might have some scours come through our calves every once in a while, but so does every producer -(beef or dairy). The likely hood of finding a healthy dairy bottle calf is much higher than finding a beef one... Atleast the dairy people know what their doing when raising a bottle calf- do it every day, unlike most beef producers who might raise one ever other year, or less!
I have seen more unhealthy bottle calves at beef places than dairy ones-- for those reasons.

If you don't live on a dairy farm-- then you have no idea what goes on at one. If the dairy farmers didn't give their calves colostrum, then don't you think that their calves might just die---- hmmm might just put them out of the business if all the calves up and died... Beef people just like to bash dairy farmers becuase they use their cows a little bit different... But in all reality-- Dairy cattle make up over 40% of the beef industry. Find me a Holstein or a Jersey steer who doesn't grade PRIME!

That is a very dumb idea!!- and even a dumber suggestion.

Jody Kabat
Dairy and Beef Producer! (and sheep and goats and hogs)

txshowlamb · Mar 12, 2009

Lets calm down here Red was only telling me her opinion and she probably is right about bringing unwanted sicknesses in...
Brittney

common sense · Mar 12, 2009

txshowlamb said:
Any numbers you have I can use? We just lost a calf tonight and she is full of milk
Brittney

Here are some numbers for Charlie.
830-237-2582 or 830-537-4430 or 830-237-9830

red · Mar 12, 2009

kfacres said:
I don't usually react in bad taste, BUT I DON"T take to kindly to that....

What do you think we dairy farmers do with our colostrum--- feed it to the cats and dogs??????? We can't sell it, can't do anything with it for atleast 2 or 3 days-- BUT feed it to calves!!!!!!!!!! There are laws against selling milk high in antibodies or known as scc's. The only reason a beef producer would have a bottle calf is due to mom not having milk, dis-owning it, dying, etc... And in those cases, their not going to have colostrum just sitting around ANYWAYS! So a calf will likely not get any, or get artificial colostrum from a bag.
Sure we might have some scours come through our calves every once in a while, but so does every producer -(beef or dairy). The likely hood of finding a healthy dairy bottle calf is much higher than finding a beef one... Atleast the dairy people know what their doing when raising a bottle calf- do it every day, unlike most beef producers who might raise one ever other year, or less!
I have seen more unhealthy bottle calves at beef places than dairy ones-- for those reasons.

If you don't live on a dairy farm-- then you have no idea what goes on at one. If the dairy farmers didn't give their calves colostrum, then don't you think that their calves might just die---- hmmm might just put them out of the business if all the calves up and died... Beef people just like to bash dairy farmers becuase they use their cows a little bit different... But in all reality-- Dairy cattle make up over 40% of the beef industry. Find me a Holstein or a Jersey steer who doesn't grade PRIME!

That is a very dumb idea!!- and even a dumber suggestion.

Jody Kabat
Dairy and Beef Producer! (and sheep and goats and hogs)

I'm sorry if I offended you but we raised over 150 newborn dairy calves that we know didn't have any colostrum at times.We had troubles from day one. I also came from a dairy background & worked on a large dairy (600 cows) & saw first hand some of the issues. I've been there when calf is pulled (they seemed to pull regardless) & take calf away immediately. First milking went down the drain. I just wanted her to know of the risks & make sure she asks.
I wasn't trying to lump all dairies into one group, but there can be issues. BTW- I am certainly not anti- dairy. A huge part of our business come from them.

Red

kanshow · Mar 12, 2009

Brit,, wish you werent' 10 hours from me, I have 2 that I'm still feeding. We also have 3 new sets of twins that are still both on the mama's.. might be pulling at least one off of there.

My 2 cents on the dairys.. We too used to raise Holstien bulls - when corn was below $2.00.. WOW! Anyway, it varied immensly from dairy to dairy what the calves were like. Some would come in so well started they were ready to go right onto a bucket & others wouldn't even know how to suck. I wish we had a dairy close to us but we lost the last 2 in our county last year.

kfacres · Mar 12, 2009

We don't sell bull calves until they are atleast 4 days old

kanshow · Mar 12, 2009

We don't sell bull calves until they are atleast 4 days old

And those 4 days are what makes all the difference in the world if you ask me!

red · Mar 12, 2009

when I was at the family dairy the calves got colostrum always. This was a 600 cow Dutch dairy. BTW-he went bankrupt after a couple of years. :

Most of the calves we got from other dairies were only 2 days old. It was an experience that I never want to do again. Was just too many problems.

Red

RSC · Mar 12, 2009

red said:
wouldn't use a calf from a dairy. Most lack colostrum from the start & you might bring in problems you don't want. Check w/ local beef producers in your area. Jill could send you one of hers!

Red

No offense to KFacres I agree with Cathy, if you can try any beef producers first. There have been time in the past that we got along great with a Dairy Calf. Years ago we developed Crypto(Scours) after purchasing a dairy calf. I have heard of others with the same issues, and this was not fun to go through!

I have been told from a producer that I trust, if handled correctly you can Graft a calf on a cow that has been without for over a week and still get her to take the calf and produce milk.

Tony

kfacres · Mar 12, 2009

call me weird, but we graft dairy bull calves onto our some of our beef cows after they wean their calves..

MSweeney_199 · Mar 12, 2009

We get over 100 new dairy calves a week and I have had to put one or two of them on my clubbie cows before and it has worked out very well. We have a big beef operation in michigan. We have 600 calves on milk at all times. If you get a healthy calf you shouldn't have any problems.

cowcrazy · Mar 13, 2009

If you are still looking for a bottle baby, you can go to the auction in Fredericksburg on Wednesday. They normally have a few bottle babies, or even better, they will separate cow calf pairs if the momma is old. These babies are usually healthier, because they have gotten their momma's first milk.

Good Luck!

OH Breeder · Mar 13, 2009

We are lucky we have a very good dairy farmer down the road. We have grafted calves before. It is just like any other farm. Whether it be dairy, beef pork or sheep there are good farms and bad farms. I wouldn't buy from a diary I didn't know. Finding beef calves for grafting are pretty hard in our area.

cowcrazy · Mar 13, 2009

If you can't wait until Wednesday to go to Fredericksburg to the auction, there is one on Monday in Hondo and sometimes they have day old calves.

NEED A BOTTLE CALF ASAP!!

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