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Here are a couple pictures of two of our new bulls.  The first is a line bred improver from elbee farms and the second is a JPJ x Party gal from Studers.  We hope both prove to be easy calving.  Only time will tell.  

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Me like-the Elbee deal should be bonified calving ease with that unmistakeable hip-Id buy semen--the Party gal similar-and one of the great Shorthorn cows ever. O0

I really like your bulls! Are you going to collect semen on them?

Will said:

Here are a couple pictures of two of our new bulls.  The first is a line bred improver from elbee farms and the second is a JPJ x Party gal from Studers.  We hope both prove to be easy calving.  Only time will tell. 

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Man this is exactly what Ive saying" solid red improver" son.  Can u post his pedigree or reg # . Please tell me he is not roan on the other side!!  ;D

sue said:

Will said:

Here are a couple pictures of two of our new bulls.  The first is a line bred improver from elbee farms and the second is a JPJ x Party gal from Studers.  We hope both prove to be easy calving.  Only time will tell.  

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Man this is exactly what Ive saying" solid red improver" son.  Can u post his pedigree or reg # . Please tell me he is not roan on the other side!!  ;D

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I would think for some of the "purist" out there that they sure wouldn't call him solid red. And for me I would rather have some roan in there to keep the red on red from turning into "orange". But then I also like having some horns in the pedigree to keep the sheath from looking like a Gerts' sheath.
Will, I do like the Improver bull.

I like em good color is secondary-horns are preferred-Never gorget the "purests" I met in Va with thier milk cow skin and bones Ayatollah Clementines- PURE Sh#$%%^&&**(T. The more knowledgable and picky they were: smugly picking apart Bradly Eismingers cattle (-which are very middle road conservative,and a good honest product)- THE WORSE THOSE SORRY HAYBURNERS WERE THAT I SAW at thier places as they expounded upon the glories and superiority of the ("pure?) dual lineage,and Ive never seen anything produced by them at all. O0

Totally agree about horns and sheaths. Hey for the guy that wants a solid color this bull could be close enough in a elbee package - that's why I asked about roan on the other side.

Will- keep me posted, he looks very promising.

Can you share some details of the pedigree on the Elbee bull?

  I think this is the pedigree. He's a very nice looking bull. Deerpark Improver 3rd influence is all through this pedigree.     
ELBEE THROWBACK 040W
                        3684142 TH-C DEERPARK IMPROVER
                  3700593 TH-F DEERPARK IMPROVER 3RD
                                IN000012 DEERPARK STRAWBERRY 7TH
      Sire: 4010304 ELBEE ULTIMATEIMPROVER3RD
                                3786686 ELBEE ROYAL GAMBLER
                  x3954361 ELBEE GLDEN PRINCESS D018
                                x3747233 M&S GOLDEN DROP 213
                                x3749045 ELBEE IMPROVED LEADER
                  x3954318 PHA-F TH-F ELBEE LEADER C087
                                x3778541 ELBEE ROSY LADY
    Dam: x4098065 ELBEE VIOLET 315N
                              x4031540 ELBEE DARELL 192J
                x4076776 ELBEE VIOLET 025L
                              x3954350 ELBEE VIOLET B016

Yes he is Elbee throwback.  With that picture you get to see all of the white he has.  We have waited and looked for a bull like him for a long time.  We drove a lot of miles to put togather this group of red bulls who have low birthwieghts.  We also have a TM Gus son that is red and looks really good.  He is a little younger and I should have a picture of him in a few days.  Our goal was to find a red bull with potential calving ease that still had a good look and acceptable performance.  We also wanted a bull from a great cow.  We will have semen available on all three bulls this spring.  We have not decided how we are going to market the semen but I will let everyone know.  That is not the best picture of Throw back but I could not get the others to down load because of their size.

So the first calves by Throwback will be next year?? Where do you live?
I see that shot of Darrell 
Loved those females at ELbees.  Very exciting thanks for sharing.

We will breed him to a handful of heifers this spring naturally.  How he collects will determin how many cows get bred to him this spring. He is  masculine appearing and I would expect him to produce good semen at a young age.  He is an April so that might affect what we have available to sell this spring.  I know we have had a couple guys already request some semen and will be taking orders until we get him collected.  I am personally going to breed him to some clubby heifers and a hand full of Durham Red heifers.  That should gives us a good idea of calving ease on a very differant type of cows. 

TM gus son that rounds out our trio of red hopefully easier calving bulls.

We just had Throwback and JB Gus collected this week.  We were able to collect each one one time and get 200 and 300 units.  The Gus bull had a 39cm scotal.  I thought that was pretty good for a long yearling that just came off cows.  Not to mention he just survived arguably the worst summer western Oklahoma has ever had.

Will said:

We just had Throwback and JB Gus collected this week.  We were able to collect each one one time and get 200 and 300 units.  The Gus bull had a 39cm scotal.  I thought that was pretty good for a long yearling that just came off cows.  Not to mention he just survived arguably the worst summer western Oklahoma has ever had.

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So glad you bumped this post - I was trying to remember where that red and some white Elbee bull went? Are you expecting just spring calves by throwback or do you have some falls on the ground now?
What was his wt and scrotal measures after breeding?

They're both very impressive! I like the second one best.

Will said:

We just had Throwback and JB Gus collected this week.  We were able to collect each one one time and get 200 and 300 units.  The Gus bull had a 39cm scotal.  I thought that was pretty good for a long yearling that just came off cows.  Not to mention he just survived arguably the worst summer western Oklahoma has ever had.

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They are two good looking bulls (thumbsup) I really like the looks of the Gus bull. Having 80C in his background really appeals to me as he leaves a practical good doing type with some eye appeal.

Will said:

TM gus son that rounds out our trio of red hopefully easier calving bulls.

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I bet you this calf will throw white calves..

sue said:

Will said:

We just had Throwback and JB Gus collected this week.  We were able to collect each one one time and get 200 and 300 units.  The Gus bull had a 39cm scrotal.  I thought that was pretty good for a long yearling that just came off cows.  Not to mention he just survived arguably the worst summer western Oklahoma has ever had.

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So glad you bumped this post - I was trying to remember where that red and some white Elbee bull went? Are you expecting just spring calves by throwback or do you have some falls on the ground now?
What was his wt and scrotal measures after breeding?

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I did not weigh him and we did not get a scrotal measurement.  I do not remember for sure but I know he was barely over 1100 as a yearling.  He is heavier now than he was when we turned him out.  As far as his scrotal he is not as big as the Gus bull but he is quite sufficient.  We will get our first calve out of him the middle March.  We bred 10 heifers to him so we may have a little idea how easy calving he will be.