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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #75 on: July 03, 2016, 07:40:05 AM »
Muri.......I'd be interested in some Robert semen when available.
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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #76 on: July 03, 2016, 08:00:37 AM »
To me, it is a toss-up as to which bull I like the best. Both bulls are true beef bulls, but something about the Matt bull really grabs my attention. I also like his pedigree with 3 crosses of Ultimate 130K, two crosses of Bonanza and one of Buster 14K wrapped up together. I can certainly see Ultimate's influence in him.
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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #77 on: July 03, 2016, 08:42:55 AM »
I am with JIT on this one I really like the Matt bull best he just looks like a clean made meat wagon!

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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #78 on: July 03, 2016, 09:10:38 AM »
Several years ago, I sold 30 embryos to Sprys Shorthorns in Australia. One of the sires Gerald Spry wanted to use was Alta Cedar Ultimate 130K and I agreed that he was an excellent choice to use. Here is a picture of one of the Ultimate 130K daughters that he got from those embryos. She produced the top bull in Sprys sale a few years ago at $28,000.   
I have always liked Ultimate 130K and have always felt he was one of the true beef bulls in the breed. I believe he was 8 years old when this picture was taken and this was after he had come in from a summer of breeding cows. To me, we could use a bunch of bulls that look like this!
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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #79 on: July 03, 2016, 09:29:42 AM »
I am with JIT on this one I really like the Matt bull best he just looks like a clean made meat wagon!///// Hands down Matt  is the one Id use at least from the two pictures: unless there are calving issues.-Hes cleaner made, shows a much more attractive muscle pattern,and looks like he's much thicker in the rear-which JMO-is one of the few areas some of these Canadian  bulls fall short O0

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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #80 on: July 03, 2016, 12:12:30 PM »
Notice the wedge shape on the two Muridale bulls as well as 130K.

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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #81 on: July 03, 2016, 06:13:33 PM »
The math is complicated but if you add all the generations up, he must be a half brother or better to Robert.
MR. How is your Bonanza bull doing? ( if I'm not mixed up)

He's been busy this spring. Covered some Shorthorns, some Angus, and some Red Angus the past few months. Probably let him run clean up on some fall calving Red Angus this winter. I've been meaning to take a picture now that the summer fescue has stripped him down to his working clothes.
M R, would you please post a photo- I'm always curious how Bonanza sons look- we already have a pretty good idea how the daughters turn out!

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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #82 on: July 03, 2016, 06:58:47 PM »
MR. How is your Bonanza bull doing? ( if I'm not mixed up)

He's been busy this spring. Covered some Shorthorns, some Angus, and some Red Angus the past few months. Probably let him run clean up on some fall calving Red Angus this winter. I've been meaning to take a picture now that the summer fescue has stripped him down to his working clothes.
M R, would you please post a photo- I'm always curious how Bonanza sons look- we already have a pretty good idea how the daughters turn out!

I guess Coyote won't mind seeing a young bonanza son in his thread.


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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #83 on: July 03, 2016, 09:08:24 PM »
Anyone have a idea of what their ultimate 130k daughters weigh? The red spry cow looks like she could weigh 1600+++ very easy.

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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #84 on: July 03, 2016, 11:33:35 PM »
Our Alta cedar Ultimate 130k cows would ave around 1500.
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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #85 on: July 04, 2016, 08:16:00 AM »
Anyone have a idea of what their ultimate 130k daughters weigh? The red spry cow looks like she could weigh 1600+++ very easy.


I don't know what the Spry cow would have weighed, but her dam was what I would call a moderate framed cow that on a good day would weigh around 1500 lbs. Sometimes pictures do not depict size very well... in both directions. I have seen some animals that appeared massive in their pictures that were smaller framed in reality, as well as the opposite.
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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #86 on: July 04, 2016, 11:10:43 AM »
MR. How is your Bonanza bull doing? ( if I'm not mixed up)

He's been busy this spring. Covered some Shorthorns, some Angus, and some Red Angus the past few months. Probably let him run clean up on some fall calving Red Angus this winter. I've been meaning to take a picture now that the summer fescue has stripped him down to his working clothes.
M R, would you please post a photo- I'm always curious how Bonanza sons look- we already have a pretty good idea how the daughters turn out!

I guess Coyote won't mind seeing a young bonanza son in his thread./// Heres one I like-and hes got some numbers-and performance to go along with them



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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #87 on: July 07, 2016, 09:15:11 PM »

The current vacancy in the staff might have something to do with delays in anything related to genetics. I just hope it didn't leave too big of a general Shorthorn/breeder knowledge vacuum as well. I expect some more growing pains along the way. I did see where they are looking for more breeders to join the various committees though, so hopefully that results in some positive additions to the system.

I'm just glad the digital beef system is working fairly smoothly. Some Red Angus breeders are STILL working through theirs after they spent an enormous amount of money, and I can't seem get an email returned no matter who I send it to over there.

 If I'm not mistaken, the current vacancy shouldn't have an effect on what Josh is talking about as Jake just left. I would say that with Jake leaving , it will leave a MAJOR Shorthorn/breeder knowledge vacuum. Other than Gwen, there is no one left with any Shorthorn knowledge or breeder knowledge. I think that will be a major frustration point to most breeders.
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 Boy, now I hate to hear that Gwen is leaving as of Aug.1st. I hate that we have now lost all the people that knew the cattle and the breeders.
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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #88 on: February 02, 2021, 03:38:48 PM »
Muridale Robert needs to be used more!  Look up his 57 offspring on Canada's digital beef.  Robert is free of myostatin.  He's a real beef bull, and sires high volume cattle.

https://csa.digitalbeef.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=_animal&file=_animal&animal_registration=M473721

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Re: New Herdsire
« Reply #89 on: February 04, 2021, 01:37:04 PM »
Robert's sire, Bonanza, is one of the great ones.  Robert, like Bonanza, has masculinity, which is not as common as it should be.  Dad used to say that when a bull looks around the corner of the barn (with only his head visible) that there should be no doubt about his being a bull.  Masculine bulls sire feminine females--have a look at the Robert daughters on the Cattlevisions website.     

 

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