New Laws passed in Ohio?

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aandtcattle

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Just curious what anybody knows about new laws being passed in the state of OHIO concerning "humane and ethical treatment of animals" and if there is any truth to what I heard, how is it affecting agriculture people there?
 

trevorgreycattleco

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I have yet to hear a word about here in my little neck of the woods. Maybe the rottweilers on the front porch have kept PETA away for a bit. I thought we had voted a bill down last year. Maybe I have missed the new campaign. I better get to lookin tho.  I love being a pain in their ass.
 

aandtcattle

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Holy cow!  That is some scary stuff!  I understand that there are a select few food animal producers that need guidelines to follow, but most of us do a top notch job and to think that we all could be looking uncle Sam in the eye while caring for our stock on a daily basis is just frightening to me.
 
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I agree, those standards are so vague and generalized that it will definitely cause issues down the road when somebody says we have to have enforcement officers. I don't know if we have gone that far yet but I hope not. Remember, this amendment was passed and pushed by Farm Bureau, Ohio Cattleman's, and all of the other agricultural organizations in an attempt to stop HSUS from trying to get their own passed in Ohio like they did in California. Supposedly the board is made up of a diverse group of people from agricultural backgrounds instead of radicals. It is suppose to be the lesser of the evils and a controlled amount of regulations to keep the radicals from the extremes.
 

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"When dehorning cattle after the horn has erupted (after it is no longer covered by hair), a pain management practice must be used."



http://www.avma.org/reference/backgrounders/dehorning_cattle_bgnd.asp
http://wildpro.twycrosszoo.org/S/00Man/PainRumOverviews/PainProc/P03PainPrev_Calf_Disbud.htm

anyone ever use this?

http://livestockconcepts.com/dehorning/655-horn-stick-caustic-dehorning-pen.html

is it the same as the orange stuff, but with a different delivery system?

"Newborn dairy and beef calves must be offered colostrum or a colostrum replacement within 24 hours of birth. "

so, inspectors are going to be out there 24/7 and if a baby calf dies because mother didn't want it or whatever, they are going to fine you?
 

hamburgman

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The colostrum one strikes me as probably a Jersey dairy thing.  The males aren't worth anything so no colostrum is a way to make sure they disappear.  Highly doubt there will be gov workers on your property making sure every calf is getting colostrum, they just don't have that kind of resources.
 
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knabe said:
"When dehorning cattle after the horn has erupted (after it is no longer covered by hair), a pain management practice must be used."



http://www.avma.org/reference/backgrounders/dehorning_cattle_bgnd.asp
http://wildpro.twycrosszoo.org/S/00Man/PainRumOverviews/PainProc/P03PainPrev_Calf_Disbud.htm

anyone ever use this?

http://livestockconcepts.com/dehorning/655-horn-stick-caustic-dehorning-pen.html

is it the same as the orange stuff, but with a different delivery system?

"Newborn dairy and beef calves must be offered colostrum or a colostrum replacement within 24 hours of birth. "

so, inspectors are going to be out there 24/7 and if a baby calf dies because mother didn't want it or whatever, they are going to fine you?
Those are the two that seemed too far to me also. They are so vague and unenforceable. I guess that is the idea though... They become like guidelines. Hopefully these regulations don't turn into something bigger.
 

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