New photos of Diamond Sunset Dottie 28S calves

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Just received these new photos from Highland Stock farms taken this week of SULL GNCC SALUTE 532R ET calves out of Diamond Sunset Dottie 28S. The white heifer is her natural calf that was heifer calf champion at Olds last weekend. The two roan bulls are her ET calves. Plan on having these calves at Canadian Western Agribition!
 

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AWESOME heifer Dan, and awesome cow... I like the second bull but would like to see both with more of a "bull" front end
 
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I have always loved this cow, right from first seeing her as a heifer calf. She is maybe the best Dottie ever ( at least of the ones I have seen or know about). My old Dottie cow is now gone, and I don't have any daughters. It was a sad day when she left.
 
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thunderdownunder said:
AWESOME heifer Dan, and awesome cow... I like the second bull but would like to see both with more of a "bull" front end
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Yes they shaved their necks like they do their Limos so it does change their fronts. The 63X bull was the heaviest of a group of 100 bull calves weaned the same day!
 
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Okotoks said:
thunderdownunder said:
AWESOME heifer Dan, and awesome cow... I like the second bull but would like to see both with more of a "bull" front end
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Yes they shaved their necks like they do their Limos so it does change their fronts. The 63X bull was the heaviest of a group of 100 bull calves weaned the same day!
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I like to see masculinity in bulls fairly early in life, but I also like to see the masculine traits to become stronger over time. By this , I mean I want bull calves to show some masculinity in the heads and front structures, but I also want them to exhibit more when they are yearlings and even more when they are mature. To me, the bull calves pictured do show some masculinity at this age,  and the heifer appears to have some feminine features to her head. Bull calves that show too much masculinity at a very young age, tend to mature quicker, which is not necessarily a bad trait. In fact I think we could use some more of this in many of the breeds today. I am looking forward to seeing these calves at Agribition  and see how they look then. BTW, I have heard from a couple well known breeders of two other breeds, about how good these calves are. Obviously, they are making their presence known to some degree.
 
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justintime said:
I like to see masculinity in bulls fairly early in life, but I also like to see the masculine traits to become stronger over time. By this , I mean I want bull calves to show some masculinity in the heads and front structures, but I also want them to exhibit more when they are yearlings and even more when they are mature. To me, the bull calves pictured do show some masculinity at this age,  and the heifer appears to have some feminine features to her head. Bull calves that show too much masculinity at a very young age, tend to mature quicker, which is not necessarily a bad trait. In fact I think we could use some more of this in many of the breeds today. I am looking forward to seeing these calves at Agribition  and see how they look then. BTW, I have heard from a couple well known breeders of two other breeds, about how good these calves are. Obviously, they are making their presence known to some degree.
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Agree to an extent JIT. Not sure on the age of these calves, but I'm assuming they'd be rising yearlings?? Or thereabouts. From what I can see in th pics, neither the heads nor necks are showing a great deal of masculinity - certainly not in comparison to the heifer (which probably needs to consider cutting down her rations!!). Basically what I'm getting at is, at first glance, I wouldn't know that I was looking at a pair of bulls. I don't particularly care for the pinched girths either. Nevertheless a good set of calves that the breeder can most certainly be proud of - I'm just picky! ;)
Okotoks said:
thunderdownunder said:
AWESOME heifer Dan, and awesome cow... I like the second bull but would like to see both with more of a "bull" front end
Click to expand...
Yes they shaved their necks like they do their Limos so it does change their fronts. The 63X bull was the heaviest of a group of 100 bull calves weaned the same day!
Click to expand...

He certainly looks the heaviest of that pair there.
 
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thunderdownunder said:
justintime said:
I like to see masculinity in bulls fairly early in life, but I also like to see the masculine traits to become stronger over time. By this , I mean I want bull calves to show some masculinity in the heads and front structures, but I also want them to exhibit more when they are yearlings and even more when they are mature. To me, the bull calves pictured do show some masculinity at this age,  and the heifer appears to have some feminine features to her head. Bull calves that show too much masculinity at a very young age, tend to mature quicker, which is not necessarily a bad trait. In fact I think we could use some more of this in many of the breeds today. I am looking forward to seeing these calves at Agribition  and see how they look then. BTW, I have heard from a couple well known breeders of two other breeds, about how good these calves are. Obviously, they are making their presence known to some degree.
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Agree to an extent JIT. Not sure on the age of these calves, but I'm assuming they'd be rising yearlings?? Or thereabouts. From what I can see in th pics, neither the heads nor necks are showing a great deal of masculinity - certainly not in comparison to the heifer (which probably needs to consider cutting down her rations!!). Basically what I'm getting at is, at first glance, I wouldn't know that I was looking at a pair of bulls. I don't particularly care for the pinched girths either. Nevertheless a good set of calves that the breeder can most certainly be proud of - I'm just picky! ;)
Okotoks said:
thunderdownunder said:
AWESOME heifer Dan, and awesome cow... I like the second bull but would like to see both with more of a "bull" front end
Click to expand...
Yes they shaved their necks like they do their Limos so it does change their fronts. The 63X bull was the heaviest of a group of 100 bull calves weaned the same day!
Click to expand...

He certainly looks the heaviest of that pair there.
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In full agreement Carla. That is one of the reasons I would like to see them in person. I also wondered about the girths but then wondered about the pictures. The color of the second bull makes me wonder if he is really tight girthed or if the picture just shows him that way. There are not many traits I hate more than animals that are weak hearted. Usually is your first indication of a frail thin existence and a short lifetime in your herd. I am not sure of the ages of these calves either. I suspect they are late January, but I am not certain. As for the condition of the heifer, I think all breeds are going overboard in this regard. I saw some Simmental calves a few days ago that will be shown this fall. They are absolutely stuffed now. And I know that many of the Angus calves out this fall could be even fatter.
 
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justintime said:
In full agreement Carla. That is one of the reasons I would like to see them in person. I also wondered about the girths but then wondered about the pictures. The color of the second bull makes me wonder if he is really tight girthed or if the picture just shows him that way. There are not many traits I hate more than animals that are weak hearted. Usually is your first indication of a frail thin existence and a short lifetime in your herd. I am not sure of the ages of these calves either. I suspect they are late January, but I am not certain. As for the condition of the heifer, I think all breeds are going overboard in this regard. I saw some Simmental calves a few days ago that will be shown this fall. They are absolutely stuffed now. And I know that many of the Angus calves out this fall could be even fatter.
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I agree too... you can't ever tell from a photo, hence the reason I wouldn't buy anything sight unseen, or without someone who's opinion I held in great faith looking at them for me!

I won't get started on the feed issue... I could go all day on that one and I don't want to highjack Dan's thread!!
 
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I saw them a month ago and the 63X bull is loaded with muscle and believe me, he is masculine with tons of performance. The other bull is clean fronted and smooth but never thought he wasn't masculine enough in the flesh. The heifer is deep bodied and a week ago at Olds she wasn't carrying any extra fat and she had a lot of performance to go with that deep body. The few Shorties at Highfield are getting some attention and Tim said people coming through to look at the other breeds ask about them.
 
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thunderdownunder said:
justintime said:
I like to see masculinity in bulls fairly early in life, but I also like to see the masculine traits to become stronger over time. By this , I mean I want bull calves to show some masculinity in the heads and front structures, but I also want them to exhibit more when they are yearlings and even more when they are mature. To me, the bull calves pictured do show some masculinity at this age,  and the heifer appears to have some feminine features to her head. Bull calves that show too much masculinity at a very young age, tend to mature quicker, which is not necessarily a bad trait. In fact I think we could use some more of this in many of the breeds today. I am looking forward to seeing these calves at Agribition  and see how they look then. BTW, I have heard from a couple well known breeders of two other breeds, about how good these calves are. Obviously, they are making their presence known to some degree.
Click to expand...

Agree to an extent JIT. Not sure on the age of these calves, but I'm assuming they'd be rising yearlings?? Or thereabouts. From what I can see in th pics, neither the heads nor necks are showing a great deal of masculinity - certainly not in comparison to the heifer (which probably needs to consider cutting down her rations!!). Basically what I'm getting at is, at first glance, I wouldn't know that I was looking at a pair of bulls. I don't particularly care for the pinched girths either. Nevertheless a good set of calves that the breeder can most certainly be proud of - I'm just picky! ;)
Okotoks said:
thunderdownunder said:
AWESOME heifer Dan, and awesome cow... I like the second bull but would like to see both with more of a "bull" front end
Click to expand...
Yes they shaved their necks like they do their Limos so it does change their fronts. The 63X bull was the heaviest of a group of 100 bull calves weaned the same day!
Click to expand...

He certainly looks the heaviest of that pair there.
Click to expand...
For some reason, TDU, masculinity is overlooked up here, in all breeds.

GB
 
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These are calves pictured at 8 months of age... With their necks clipped.... I am a firm believer of a bull being masculine, as Carla knows, but.... At 8 months of age these bulls are showing sufficient masculinity in my opinion.  Not to mention that the bottom bull showed the most performance in his group of 100 bull calves from 3 different breeds.  I am thrilled that we have this new Shorthorn breeder who is already generating excitement amongst other beef breeders.

Now for the Sunset Dottie x Captain Mark calves we will be implanting next year.... I feel a new level of gleefulness at this  <beer> <party>
 
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