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CAB

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DOB: 3/19, out of a Maine/Simm cow, opinions are welcomed!  :)

 

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Good looking girl.  Is she out of that red cow next to her?  If so, you could sure go back with a red-carrier bull on her and get a chance at a red one - which works well down here for our slick shows.  Don't know how much use that would be to you in your part of the world.
 

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Nice heifer. What is her approx frame score?  When I used Legend, his calves were too short and stumpy for me.... but she looks good!
 

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Thanks for the comments. The dam is the huge red cow in the picture with her. She is 13 years old and was slated to go to the barn, but we decided to try Legend on her to see if we could get a heifer out of her that would possibly be smaller framed. We did get a heifer, but she will be a bigger framed cow than what I had hoped for. We have only had 1 red calf out of her during her life so far,( her dam was black). It was sired by a Red Angus bull and we were planning on keeping him to use as a clean up bull, but never did B/C he seemed to have Spastic Paresis on his back right leg as he got older. We have the cow bred back to Duffs New Edition and are hoping for another heifer calf. The cow usually has calves that are too strait in their back leg structure and I would say that this calf is close to being a little strait off her rear legs and actually could stand to be a tick thicker.
 

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CAB said:
Thanks for the comments. The dam is the huge red cow in the picture with her. She is 13 years old and was slated to go to the barn, but we decided to try Legend on her to see if we could get a heifer out of her that would possibly be smaller framed. We did get a heifer, but she will be a bigger framed cow than what I had hoped for. We have only had 1 red calf out of her during her life so far,( her dam was black). It was sired by a Red Angus bull and we were planning on keeping him to use as a clean up bull, but never did B/C he seemed to have Spastic Paresis on his back right leg as he got older. We have the cow bred back to Duffs New Edition and are hoping for another heifer calf. The cow usually has calves that are too strait in their back leg structure and I would say that this calf is close to being a little strait off her rear legs and actually could stand to be a tick thicker.

I haven't seen a ton of Ohlde bred females in my neck of the woods but the ones that I do see aren't real powerful.  It seems like to me(and this is going off of just a few calves) that they have a ton of middle, moderate, and are fairly good in their lines but they just need to be bred to a real stout cow.  I have a couple of cows that are just too big and maybe too long.  I've been trying to figure out what to breed them to so it will kind of jam them up in a sense.  I first thought Ohlde and now think I'm leaning more towards Lookout(which has some Ohlde blood in him.  What do you think?
 

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Cattledog said:
CAB said:
Thanks for the comments. The dam is the huge red cow in the picture with her. She is 13 years old and was slated to go to the barn, but we decided to try Legend on her to see if we could get a heifer out of her that would possibly be smaller framed. We did get a heifer, but she will be a bigger framed cow than what I had hoped for. We have only had 1 red calf out of her during her life so far,( her dam was black). It was sired by a Red Angus bull and we were planning on keeping him to use as a clean up bull, but never did B/C he seemed to have Spastic Paresis on his back right leg as he got older. We have the cow bred back to Duffs New Edition and are hoping for another heifer calf. The cow usually has calves that are too strait in their back leg structure and I would say that this calf is close to being a little strait off her rear legs and actually could stand to be a tick thicker.

I haven't seen a ton of Ohlde bred females in my neck of the woods but the ones that I do see aren't real powerful.  It seems like to me(and this is going off of just a few calves) that they have a ton of middle, moderate, and are fairly good in their lines but they just need to be bred to a real stout cow.  I have a couple of cows that are just too big and maybe too long.  I've been trying to figure out what to breed them to so it will kind of jam them up in a sense.  I first thought Ohlde and now think I'm leaning more towards Lookout(which has some Ohlde blood in him.  What do you think?

Cattledog....I'd go with Legend or another OCC or Duff bull for what you need to do.  BC Lookout will transmit more performance and power (and style) than the OCC's, but won't moderate to the extreme that you might be looking for.  Legend will moderate more.  But I really like the Lookouts.  Wish he would calve like Legend....he'd then be our replacement for him.  But he is just so-so on heifers, so we use him selectively.
 

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A couple of bulls that have my attention right now are Limestone Great Divide and Brian House turned me towards a Select bull, BC Classic. He is a 6807 grand son on top of a full sib to BC Look Out. Look them up on Selectsires.com and watch their videos. Another bull to look @ while you're there is Limestone Rimrock. He is a Steel Force on top of a different full sib to BC Look Out.
  I had also e-mailed Tim Ohlde and he says that OCC Picture Perfect is what they are using in place of Legend and said that he thought that the calves were better out of PP.
 

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CAB said:
Thanks for the comments. The dam is the huge red cow in the picture with her. She is 13 years old and was slated to go to the barn, but we decided to try Legend on her to see if we could get a heifer out of her that would possibly be smaller framed. We did get a heifer, but she will be a bigger framed cow than what I had hoped for. We have only had 1 red calf out of her during her life so far,( her dam was black). It was sired by a Red Angus bull and we were planning on keeping him to use as a clean up bull, but never did B/C he seemed to have Spastic Paresis on his back right leg as he got older. We have the cow bred back to Duffs New Edition and are hoping for another heifer calf. The cow usually has calves that are too strait in their back leg structure and I would say that this calf is close to being a little strait off her rear legs and actually could stand to be a tick thicker.
If it's a bull calf, get him 13 months old, and bring him to a fair or expo in either Northern Arkansas, or Southern Missouri. Guys here still favor the homozygous black-Continentals over pure Angus. Even though it'd be a red carrier, There's still a market for that type of breeding stock, among commercial cattlemen in the Ozarks.

GB
 

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First picture is the mother of the OCC Legend.

Sire is ACC1 Hustler, out of one of our first calf heifers this year. First picture is of the dam. She is a Wilson X PB Angus. Second picture is of the calf. DOB 3/17.
 

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Brent is the last heifer tag 4 I did't see her in with the other calves the other day when I went through and that was one I was trying to get another peak at.
 

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Jason that is tag # 4. I think that she was in the pen when you went through them, but I'm not positive. Brent
 

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Cattledog said:
CAB said:
Thanks for the comments. The dam is the huge red cow in the picture with her. She is 13 years old and was slated to go to the barn, but we decided to try Legend on her to see if we could get a heifer out of her that would possibly be smaller framed. We did get a heifer, but she will be a bigger framed cow than what I had hoped for. We have only had 1 red calf out of her during her life so far,( her dam was black). It was sired by a Red Angus bull and we were planning on keeping him to use as a clean up bull, but never did B/C he seemed to have Spastic Paresis on his back right leg as he got older. We have the cow bred back to Duffs New Edition and are hoping for another heifer calf. The cow usually has calves that are too strait in their back leg structure and I would say that this calf is close to being a little strait off her rear legs and actually could stand to be a tick thicker.

I haven't seen a ton of Ohlde bred females in my neck of the woods but the ones that I do see aren't real powerful.  It seems like to me(and this is going off of just a few calves) that they have a ton of middle, moderate, and are fairly good in their lines but they just need to be bred to a real stout cow.  I have a couple of cows that are just too big and maybe too long.  I've been trying to figure out what to breed them to so it will kind of jam them up in a sense.  I first thought Ohlde and now think I'm leaning more towards Lookout(which has some Ohlde blood in him.  What do you think?


I have used BC Lookout on some big cows and he doesn't seem to down size like OCC Legend does.
 

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The cow usually has calves that are too strait in their back leg structure and I would say that this calf is close to being a little strait off her rear legs and actually could stand to be a tick thicker.

CAB- It seems like Legend is one of the better bulls for correcting those hind legs.  Just curious about the breeding on the bottom side.Too straight of structure probably correlates with SP but I guess the verdict is still out and up for argument.













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She's out of a percentage Ma bull that I raised and I can't remember what his sire was to be honest. He was a calf that had grown well and looked good and I just needed a clean up bull way back when. All of this cows calves have been too strait and that is part of the reason we used Legend on her plus to help down-size her.
 
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