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Re: Oklahoma City Bombing-New Video
« Reply #75 on: May 17, 2010, 06:16:32 AM »
Good Questions:

1) On 1995-04-23, only four days after the bombing, with public outrage still at its height, President Clinton signed into law the so-called Counter-Terrorism Bill.  Trust me, it was written way before OKC bombing just as the Patriot bill was written prior to 9/11.

2) Ruby Ridge and Waco both have a lot to do with OKC.  Waco was a failed attempt to get people to demand a Counter Terrorism Bill after the FBI massacred the children and residents there.  The government was afraid of the militia movement back then.  The globalists want to take over and rob us.  Well, like they did under Bush with the bailouts.  But they are afraid of us as long as we have guns.  They want assault weapons banned period.  


1) do you really think the gov't had to blow up one of their own buildings up to be able to pass a bill like that??

2) You still didn't give me any reason that shows that Ruby Ridge had anything to do with OKC.

Do you really believe that something of the magnitude of those 2 terror acts , could stay a secret . With the number of people that would have been involved if the gov't had done either one, there is no way it would have stayed a secret.
Is everything that bad happens in the world , because the gov't does it?
« Last Edit: May 17, 2010, 07:02:29 AM by Doc »
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Re: Oklahoma City Bombing-New Photo of Ryder Truck at Military Base
« Reply #76 on: May 17, 2010, 07:44:59 AM »
This so brilliant. Thanks Carl S. we know you really "know" what is happening.
Borrowed from carl s.

Weve all heard the official conspiracy theory of the Death Star attack. We all know about Luke Skywalker and his ragtag bunch of rebels, how they mounted a foolhardy attack on the most powerful, well-defended battle station ever built. And weve all seen the video over, and over, and over, of the one-in-a-million shot that resulted in a massive chain reaction that not just damaged, but completely obliterated that massive technological wonder.

Like many, I was fed this story when I was growing up. But as I watched the video, I began to realize that all was not as it seemed. And the more I questioned the official story, the deeper into the rabbit hole I went.

Presented here are some of the results of my soul-searching regarding this painful event. Like many citizens, I have many questions that I would like answered: was the mighty Imperial government really too incompetent to prevent a handful of untrained nerf-herders from destroying one of their most prized assets? Or are they hiding something from us? Who was really behind the attack? Why did they want the Death Star destroyed? No matter what the answers, we have a problem.

Uncomfortable Questions about the Death Star Attack

1) Why were a handful of rebel fighters able to penetrate the defenses of a battle station that had the capability of destroying an entire planet and the defenses to ward off several fleets of battle ships?

The above photos show Death Star defenses. Did they stand down?

2) Why did Grand Moff Tarkin refuse to deploy the stations large fleet of TIE Fighters until it was too late? Was he acting on orders from somebody to not shoot down the rebel attack force? If so, who, and why?

3) Why was the rebel pilot who supposedly destroyed the Death Star reported to be on the Death Star days, maybe hours, prior to its destruction? Why was he allowed to escape, and why were several individuals dressed in Stormtrooper uniforms seen helping him?

4) Why has there not been an investigation into allegations that Darth Vader, the second-ranking member of the Imperial Government, is in fact the father of the pilot who allegedly destroyed the Death Star?

Why didn't he arrest this rebel when he had the chance?

5) Why did Lord Vader decide to break all protocols and personally pilot a lightly armored TIE Fighter? Conveniently, this placed Lord Vader outside of the Death Star when it was destroyed, where he was also conveniently able to escape from a large-sized rebel fleet that had just routed the Imperial forces. Why would Lord Vader, one of the highest ranking members of the Imperial Government, suddenly decide to fly away from the Death Star in the middle of a battle? Did he know something that the rest of the Imperial Navy didnt?

In the video of the Death Stars destruction, Lord Vader clearly exclaims I have you now then fires two shots. Those shots never impact anywhere. Were they merely added to the official video after the event to make it appear that Lord Vader had at least attempted to fight off his alleged son?

Onboard Camera shows the lone rebel in Vader's sights but doesn't pull the trigger.

6) Nerf-Herders defy the laws of physics? How could any pilot shoot a missile into a 2 meter-wide exhaust port, let alone a pilot with no formal training, whose only claim to fame was his ability to bullseye womprats on Tatooine? This shot, according to one pilot, would be impossible, even for a computer. Yet, according to additional evidence, the pilot who allegedly fired the missile turned off his targeting computer when he was supposedly firing the shot that destroyed the Death Star. How did the missile make a right angle turn after entering the exhaust port? How could a missile shot in the vacuum of spacethat would tend to keep going in the same direction as it was released, according to the laws of physicsbe *sucked* into an *exhaust* pipe? "Exhaust" means to exhale or blow out... Wouldnt the missiles have been blown awry of their target rather than sucked in? If it had been an intake pipe, then the bending path of the missiles could be plausible. Why have these discrepancies never been investigated, let alone explained?

Actual tactical computer recording.

The Magic Missile Theory

7) Why has their been no investigation into evidence that the droids who provided the rebels with the Death Star plans were once owned by none other than Lord Vader himself, and were found, conveniently, by the pilot who destroyed the Death Star, and who is also believed to be Lord Vaders son? Evidence also shows that the droids were brought to one Ben Kenobi, who, records indicate, was Darth Vaders teacher many years earlier! Are all these personal connections between the conspirators and a key figure in the Imperial government supposed to be coincidences?

 How could a single missile destroy a battle station the size of a moon? No records, anywhere, show that any battle station or capital ship has ever been destroyed by a single missile. Furthermore, analysis of the tape of the last moments of the Death Star show numerous small explosions along its surface, prior to it exploding completely! Why does all evidence indicate that strategically placed explosives, not a single missile, is what destroyed the Death Star?

How could this small missile create an explosion this big?


9) Prior to the destruction of the Death Star a smuggler named Captain Solo was reportedly given a large sum of money. At a crucial point in the battle, Captain Solo had an unobstructed shot on his choice of the fighters pursuing Skywalker, yet Solo did not take advantage of this opportunity to kill Darth Vader. Although Vader was in the process of firing upon Skywalkers X-wing, Solo attacked the defensive fighter instead. In the aftermath, Vader escaped, while Solo still had crates of money in his cargo hold. Captain Solo eventually made his way to the Bespin system, where he was seen dining with none other than Vader, who was reportedly obsessed with obtaining Captain Solos ship (and the money contained therein). Solos ship was then seen flying into the super-structure of the second Death Star, destroying it just after Vader was able to get out (he was seen leaving a shuttle piloted by none other than Luke Skywalker). Yet through this whole sequence of events, the money was never seen removed from Solos ship. Was it used to bribe Darth Vader, who (allegedly) assassinated Palpatine? Did anyone other than Vader and Skywalker actually see Emperor Palpatine die?

10 ) During pilot debriefing we leaned that Obi Wan was the one who told Luke to turn off his targeting computer. He said he was told by Obi Wan to "Let go" and "Trust me". This is the same Obi Wan who was, according to the official story,  killed after sabotaging the Death Star by none other than Darth Vader BEFORE speaking to Luke. His convenient death places him inside the Death Star just before the explosions on the surface occur. By faking his death Vader would have given Obi Wan time to plant explosives. The only evidence of his death is his Jedi robe on surveillance cameras. And even that can't be found because they decided to conveniently let the evidence burn in the planet atmosphere. Also, why are there reports from Endor that Lord Vader, Obi Wan and Yoda were seen together AFTER their deaths? And who other than the Empire has the capacity to fake their deaths?

11) Lord Vader executed an officer for incompetence by allowing the rebels to escape. He then orders another officer to disable the Millennium Falcon's hyper drive. The rebels once again escape using the disabled hyper drive. Why was the officer responsible for caring out Lord Vader's order to disable the hyper drive not executed? Why was he in fact given NO disciplinary action what so ever? Why did Lord Vader only disable the hyper drive? If Lord Vader didn't want the rebels to escape, why didn't he disable the ship entirely?

12) Why did the captain of the Imperial Stardestroyer not fire upon the lifepod with the droids carrying Death Star plans? The "official story" says he didn't find the any signs of life. He said  "Hold your fire. There are no life forms. It must have been short-circuited." Why would he be looking for life when it was electronic plans he should have been looking for. Why did he jump to the conclusion it was "short-circuited". Is he a lifepod engineer?

How can all this be just incompetence and coincidence? IMPOSSIBLE!

The most important question of all is why would a shadowy group in the Empire want to destroy such a technological wonder? Is it an excuse to invade Hoth and steal their oil; a planet which didnt have anything to do with the attacks. Or is it to take away your religious freedoms to practice the dark side of the force? This is the only and best response to any conspirators or crazy people.
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Re: Oklahoma City Bombing-New Video Link
« Reply #77 on: May 17, 2010, 10:56:37 AM »
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