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Re: old shorthorn semen
« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2019, 05:47:12 PM »
I am new to shorthorn cattle, but ive recently purchased four bred SuperFlag heifers from Wally Klose in Twin Bridges Montana. I believe the heifers are bred to a grandson of Clifford King?? not sure on the name. Anyways when talking with Wally he stated to me that I should try to keep the old genetics going and keep breeding to the older bulls 4 Point major, leader 9, leader 6, Cumberland gay lad  and bulls like that. I was wondering if there is any semen left in the states from bulls like this? and what would be the cost?. Also I run straight black cattle with good angus/simmy genetics and was wonder if there is any kind of market for half blood blue roan bulls?

That is probably Clipper King of USA. There is some of the old semen out there, with some hunting. Don't know what your goals are, but just like it is discussed in another thread just because they are old doesn't mean they will be good.

Doc, it would do you some good to listen to these breeders like Wally Klose and Roy Lovaas.  These guys raise good functional cattle unlike these modern day steer jockeys. 

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Re: old shorthorn semen
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2019, 05:06:28 AM »
I am new to shorthorn cattle, but ive recently purchased four bred SuperFlag heifers from Wally Klose in Twin Bridges Montana. I believe the heifers are bred to a grandson of Clifford King?? not sure on the name. Anyways when talking with Wally he stated to me that I should try to keep the old genetics going and keep breeding to the older bulls 4 Point major, leader 9, leader 6, Cumberland gay lad  and bulls like that. I was wondering if there is any semen left in the states from bulls like this? and what would be the cost?. Also I run straight black cattle with good angus/simmy genetics and was wonder if there is any kind of market for half blood blue roan bulls?

That is probably Clipper King of USA. There is some of the old semen out there, with some hunting. Don't know what your goals are, but just like it is discussed in another thread just because they are old doesn't mean they will be good.

Doc, it would do you some good to listen to these breeders like Wally Klose and Roy Lovaas.  These guys raise good functional cattle unlike these modern day steer jockeys.

I'm sure they raise good cattle for what their customers want and what they want to see in their pastures. That's why I raise the cattle that I do. I still stand by my statement that "just because they are old doesn't mean they will be good" or genetics that we want to propagate anymore. A lot of those cattle you gave up a lot of performance with.
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Re: old shorthorn semen
« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2019, 10:54:40 PM »
i wish i could help but i show angus and clubbys. :-\

 

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