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opinions on market show steer
« on: December 27, 2010, 05:06:52 PM »
So i have posted a picture of my market animal here before a little while back and i just have a few updated pictures.
Name: Cash
Breed: Shorthorn
Age: 8 Months
Born: April 24, 2010
Weight:596 lbs(December)
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Re: opinions on market show steer
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2010, 05:08:35 PM »
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« Last Edit: December 27, 2010, 05:25:07 PM by Shorthorn Girl »
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2010, 05:30:13 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2010, 05:37:32 PM »
He still looks pot gutted to me, but who knows with the pic. I will say with the weight and his age you need to push him quite a bit harder, heck we have commercial calves with no creep that will wean at 7 months as 7 weights. If he has been up as long as he has and still only weighing that, he probably needs a good deworming and the feed poured to him. If I remember correctly he was on unlimited hay. Is this the case? If so, it still needs to change, because honestly I don't see alot of change on the gut, but I do think he has gotten a little more condition . Not trying to be critical, just want you to have the best chance possible at giving it a go with what you have.
A good haircut will help him out alot and will make him look a lot fresher.

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Re: opinions on market show steer
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2010, 05:41:17 PM »
I have to agree.  That weight is far too small for his age and he shows it.  With that gut and frame you can put a lot on him fast if you'll just pour the feed to him.  I don't know what you're feeding but I would suggest working towards doubling the amount.  I think feed will make the most difference with him.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2010, 05:55:57 PM »
i work with beefmaster with my steer at the same place.  he is a really nice looking steer in person.  he has always had a gut but he has been dewormed and everything.  the pictures just dont do him justice.  he just needs to mature a little more.  the rest of this registered shorthorn herd is always green for quite awhile then they just seem to take off and turn out amazing.
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Re: opinions on market show steer
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2010, 06:07:11 PM »
The gut will have to be managed out of him, or he will have it for awhile. Whether they end up amazing or not, performance wise he is lacking a great bit at this point in time and needs to be fed a lot heavier or a lot better one of the two and probably a combination of both, period. For your sake, I hope he takes off, but you need to realize, cattle can only take off with the correct management and feeding, with the 2nd being something the steer is in great need of.

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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2010, 06:44:34 PM »
I agree with showsteernc and flacowman you need to pour the feed to that calf or he won't make weight. We sell prospects in October that weigh 700 and up.Get him on a good finisher ration and feed him all you can get down him. You may want to implant him. Cut the hay and feed more corn. Give him just enough hay to scratch his belly.
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Re: opinions on market show steer
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2010, 07:09:56 PM »
agreed with the previous posters. he is looking a little bit better than the pictures from before but still a little behind from where he needs to be. we - like they said before ship calves at 8 months old that weigh 780. implanting would be a smart idea to stouten him up
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2010, 07:29:25 PM »
Hes gettin there....as for the belly..i think its the hay. What type is he getting? He needs to be pushed on the feed...Im feeding the Purina Honor Show Chow and am loving it. It gives a show steer the nutrients they need and fill. You should try it out...its not too pricey either, helps the beginner showman outright...no guessing games, no mixing..just scoop, weigh and feed! Hes got good conformation and style. Keep at it!
« Last Edit: December 27, 2010, 07:31:10 PM by PaFFA Proud »
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Re: opinions on market show steer
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2010, 08:45:12 PM »
we have our fortworth calf on honor. the one in my topic. he is also on supplements not just feed but we like the honor as a base feed
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2010, 08:59:06 AM »
I am feeding him alfalfa and grass hay and oats and corn,
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2010, 09:05:46 AM »
He sure as heck doesn't need the alfalfa mixed hay, and also you really need to get him on a complete feed not just the corn and oats. You can't develop cattle on a diet like that plain and simple. Now I understand why he weighs what he does, he ain't being fed right to say the least. Your best option would be to find a complete feed as paffproud had mentioned even if it is not a show feed. Something that is around 12% protein give or take a %, 3% fat minimum, and around 8-10% fiber max. You can find a cheap complete feed almost anywhere that won't break the bank, but it is of utmost importance to go ahead and do it, or you aren't going to have much luck trying to feed him out with the program he is on now. But most importantly, get rid of that alfalfa.

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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2010, 09:22:21 AM »
I am not able to change what he is fed, i keep him at a farmers house and he owns the animals and he knows what he is doing, on this diet he has hand good animals.  he is a shorthorn so he will be a little slow maturing but once we start feeding on schedule he will get some weight on him
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Re: opinions on market show steer
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2010, 09:31:51 AM »
I am not able to change what he is fed, i keep him at a farmers house and he owns the animals and he knows what he is doing, on this diet he has hand good animals.  he is a shorthorn so he will be a little slow maturing but once we start feeding on schedule he will get some weight on him
I've got horns on feed right now, both steers and heifers so I've had a little experience. Some shorthorns take a little while to come into themselves, but sorry that steer is past the point of taking a little while to mature. If you post something on here asking what people think, then you need to realize that people who have done this before will say what can be improved, and it seems to be the consensus that the feeding management of this calf will have to change. Take it FWIW, but from experience you have to do what you have to do to get a steer where he needs to be. Best of luck, but until something changes, I can't see the steer  changing much honestly.

 

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