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Re: Our first freeze branding experience...
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2012, 08:49:12 PM »
Acetone (get it at Lowes) works great as a coolant.  Doesnt absorb water or evap. like alcohol and isnt as dangerous as gasoline.
So can you reuse it? Just wondering. I guess that is the problem with alcohol, because it absorbs water from the air you can not reuse it for branding.

Thinking for the fall....

Crystal, we received no help when we designed the brand. Hindsight now, I wonder if the letters will "bleed" within the Maltese cross because they are too close to the outline. I guess we will see. The best time to see if that happens is in the fall when they have the most hair growth. The brand was around $150, and the registration was $25. We may have to go back to the drawing board, and are thinking if we do we will just remove the FS from the center. Just forward thinking....
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Re: Our first freeze branding experience... (48 hours later pics added)
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2012, 11:41:49 AM »
I'm curious how it will turn out too!   I know if it were a hot iron brand, it would burn in so it would be a big square with no distinction.  I have no idea if freeze branding will do the same.   

I know there is another thread about placement but when we first started branding all of our brands were on teh left side because that's the side of the chute we work from.    However due to some unforeseen circumstances, we are now registered for our brand in all 6 places in with both freeze and hot specified..   We typically put it on the left shoulder BUT could do it where ever we wanted by whatever method we choose. 

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Re: Our first freeze branding experience...
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2012, 06:27:54 PM »
Interesting thread, I really enjoyed reading the posts!

I totally agree:)

My family raised Longhorns (no pointing and laughing) for years and you HAVE to brand them to register them and we used a hot brand-Dad wanted to do it the old school way.  My nephew now has a tiny herd of clubbish cows and is DYING to freezebrand. In fact, he just very recently came up with his brand that is a modification of our old family brand...we love that he is reusing it. I def will be printing this tread out for future refrence when we get his brand.

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Re: Our first freeze branding experience... (48 hours later pics added)
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2012, 12:22:44 PM »
Just for those that are following our experience, here is a shot of the brand 9 days post branding. It is starting to peel, and does not seem to bother the cattle when we brush.

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Re: Our first freeze branding experience... (9 days later pic added)
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2012, 02:13:00 PM »
we have an electric brand and like it a lot... even heat and handy

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Re: Our first freeze branding experience... (9 days later pic added)
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2012, 04:18:40 PM »
We will be freeze branding for the first time this year. We just picked up our iron and are excited. This is a great thread and the freeze branding handbook was extremely well received in our house.
our brand was made from bronze and we are eager to see the results. we have seen some brands done with copper alloy and brass and feel the brass left clearer markings. I have been researching this tropic for a while wanting to get away from hot irons. It just took a bit to get  it passed at the family supper table.
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Re: Our first freeze branding experience...
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2012, 05:14:29 PM »
Crystal, we received no help when we designed the brand. Hindsight now, I wonder if the letters will "bleed" within the Maltese cross because they are too close to the outline. I guess we will see. The best time to see if that happens is in the fall when they have the most hair growth. The brand was around $150, and the registration was $25. We may have to go back to the drawing board, and are thinking if we do we will just remove the FS from the center. Just forward thinking....
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Firesweep, if you want to keep that brand and it does bleed through or what we call burn through for a hot/fire brand, you can make that brand into 2 or more brands to keep that from happening. Yes you have to brand them 2 or more times but it comes out a very clean brand then. So you could have 1 brand with the Maltese cross then 1 with a F and S, brand them with the cross 1st then come back immediately with the F and S. Just a thought. It is very easy to burn through with hot/fire brands, so most use 2 or 3 branding irons for 1 complete brand.
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Re: Our first freeze branding experience... (12 days later pic added)
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2012, 08:46:39 PM »
Today is day 12 post branding, and they are looking quiet nice, if you ask me  ;) I almost wish they would stay this way instead of the hair growing in white, the clarity is really good! Of course, we have a few that looked messed up, especially the bull calf that jumped and got stuck and we had to squeeze him a second time. Hindsight, we should have just left him to see how the brand turned out instead of going back over the top of it. Oh well, it was the vet's call.
So here are some pics. We turned the branded group out for some grass that grows around the front of our place, it is usually mowed, not grazed, but with our lack of grass and still being on hay I thought it would be foolish to mow it and not let the cattle have a chance for a small strip of grass!
« Last Edit: August 30, 2012, 08:49:28 PM by firesweepranch »
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Re: Our first freeze branding experience... (12 days later pic added)
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2012, 09:58:33 PM »
The brand looks good, but I REALLY like "Grace" The second picture down, seems like a very deep bodied heifer.

What is she?

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Re: Our first freeze branding experience... (12 days later pic added)
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2012, 08:58:17 AM »
It looks like they turned out real well!!

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Re: Our first freeze branding experience... (12 days later pic added)
« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2012, 09:38:05 AM »
That closest heifer up in the top picture is no slouch either. Nice cattle FSR. Just curious, why did you decide to go with the left front shoulder as opposed to the right shoulder? I personally like them on the picture side so that everyone eventually knows where they came from.

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Re: Our first freeze branding experience... (12 days later pic added)
« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2012, 03:48:36 PM »
The brand looks good, but I REALLY like "Grace" The second picture down, seems like a very deep bodied heifer.

What is she?

Mark

Thanks Mark! And CAB  :) Grace is sired by Grandmaster (lots of talk on here about him) out of a Pacesetter 3 year old. The closest up heifer in the top pic is sired by Amigo out of a first calf heifer (she was pictured on here last year because we put an embryo in her dam we got from Tim Burke and we were consigning her to the Royal sale  - everyone liked the cow and wondered why we used her as a recip, but our best milkers get the embryos around here!). The Amigo heifer is bred to Movin Forward for an April calf (she is an April heifer).
We went with the left side for the reason you stated, but opposite CAB, we DO NOT want to detract from our females with a brand while showing. We figure people will see the left shoulder and know where they came from. Our reasoning for branding was theft prevention. Nothing else. LOTS of 4-H and FFA kids herds have been hit around here, and we did not want to be one of those statistics.
Here is a pic of Grace and her dam.
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Re: Our first freeze branding experience... (3 weeks later pics added)
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2012, 01:50:06 PM »
Thought I would update pictures for those who are following this with hopes of freeze branding. The first shot is the brand that slipped below the clip line. No hair growth yet, but looks real good from far away!
The second photo is a yearling we did, and I think the size looks just right.
The last photo is a cow we have that is burn branded on her ribs, the Herring Ranch brand (a big S with an arrow as far as I can tell). You can hardly see the burn brand, but you can really see the freeze brand. I like the freeze brand better.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 02:04:06 PM by firesweepranch »
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Re: Our first freeze branding experience... (3 weeks later pics added)
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2012, 05:05:27 PM »
I do like your freeze brand compared to that burn brand...You can hardly see it

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Re: Our first freeze branding experience... (3 weeks later pics added)
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2012, 10:38:03 PM »
Thanks for this post again! We have also just finished out first freeze branding experience. We did cows, yearling heifers and bull/heifer calves.

for a coolant we used liquid nitrogen. it was much easier to transport and maintain as we have a small holding tank that did the trick. it also worked out to be cheaper on a cost/hd by roughly $1 a head. Mostly due to the decrease in the need of 99% alc that is expensive. since we were branding a few consecutivly we also liked that the iron would cool faster in the nitrogen than in dry ice and alcohol. we only use out single brand and no letters, in Canada i have not seen many breeders use branded numbers on their cattle.

we found a 6 inch deep small styrofoam cooler to use and simply cut a hole in the top to slide the iron into the nitrogen. worked like a charm!

after reading through this post and material provided, i also contacted a breeder i know that does great brands for more info. from there we formulated a plan of attack and went at it.
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