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Re: PETA is at it again!!
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2010, 10:25:20 PM »
Everyone should read Amanda Nolz posts! She knows what shes talking about, especially when it comes to PETA and the HSUS. I read her blog every day.  http://blog.beefmagazine.com/beef_daily/
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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2010, 07:11:46 AM »
As a county Farm Bureau board member I love to talk to people like that ! You cant believe the things those people actually think and say. The youngest 4-H member knows more than these people. As a farmer,cattle producer and father Ibeleive we must try to educate them every chance we get. These people can sway politicians with their endless supply of cash and members. Ive heard it said most city people are 3 generations removed from the farm, so theyve probably never talked to anyone who lives in the country let alone farmed or produced any kind of food. We need to tyell our story or someone else will---- and we wont like their version.

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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2010, 01:17:01 PM »
thank you for the post 'justme".  I hope that all agricultural based families and kids can respond back to PETA that way and totally disarm them with the answers.
I am sure PETA had someone or something at the Iowa State Fair, but while I was there last week, I never heard about anything going on with them.  I would have gladly done the same thing if they had come to our stalls!   (clapping)
PS A friend showed me this site at the ISF and this is my first post!

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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2012, 09:04:24 PM »
http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/24/documents-peta-kills-more-than-95-percent-of-pets-in-its-care/#ixzz1nP1mXYuv

They seem more successful per capita than planned parenthood.

Amazing anyone gives them money.
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Re: PETA is at it again!!
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2012, 07:33:22 AM »
I recently heard that an activist group was trying to pass a bill to stop the A.Iing of cattle. Do they not understand how much the cattle industry relies on AI? Well I guess we are talking about PETA..
Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cattle and that's pretty much the same thing as far as I'm concerned!

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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2012, 08:39:14 AM »
I recently heard that an activist group was trying to pass a bill to stop the A.Iing of cattle. Do they not understand how much the cattle industry relies on AI? Well I guess we are talking about PETA..

disregarding PETA: I wonder what this would do the the cattle industry? 

Create more of an interest for walking bulls in bull sales (+)
Raise the nationwide cattle numbers (+)
Do away with the ridiculous AI Certs (+)
Create genetic evolution and change (+)/ (-)
Reduce the lined pockets of the AI Company's (+)
Broaden our genetic options (+)

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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2012, 09:07:56 AM »
If vegitarians and PETA love animals, why do they eat their food?? (clapping)

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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2012, 09:19:03 AM »
You think that's ridiculous? Look what we're having to deal with in Manitoba.  :-\

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20120215/dead-cows-roadside-memorial-manitoba-120215/

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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2012, 09:31:34 AM »
I recently heard that an activist group was trying to pass a bill to stop the A.Iing of cattle. Do they not understand how much the cattle industry relies on AI? Well I guess we are talking about PETA..

disregarding PETA: I wonder what this would do the the cattle industry? 

Create more of an interest for walking bulls in bull sales (+)
Raise the nationwide cattle numbers (+)
Do away with the ridiculous AI Certs (+)
Create genetic evolution and change (+)/ (-)
Reduce the lined pockets of the AI Company's (+)
Broaden our genetic options (+)


Do it yourself. No one is stopping anyone.
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Re: PETA is at it again!!
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2012, 10:21:01 AM »
How will no use of a.i. broaden genetic options? If you can't a.i. then there will be no e.t. work either.

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Re: PETA is at it again!!
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2012, 10:34:24 AM »
How do pronounce th when talking out of both sides of your mouth without a forked tongue?

In the animal kingdom, we must impose monogamous pairings in all organisms to maximize genetic diversity.  Any narrowing of the gene pool is evil.
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Re: PETA is at it again!!
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2012, 10:34:40 AM »
The people involved in these groups have nothing better to do than interfear with ours, just because someone once told them that we were evil. They have little bases for their message other than the propaganda that they have been given from head quarters. They may not have read beyond the first page and believe that they know it all, while they may not have fully interpreted the original message. It is a feel good message for them and by enlarge they really know nothing more than it feels good to tell someone else how they should treat their animals and live there lives. These are the same people that will vote in November and we wonder why our country is in trouble?

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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2012, 11:18:15 AM »
How will no use of a.i. broaden genetic options? If you can't a.i. then there will be no e.t. work either.

Purely the opposite on both accounts. 

how do you figure that a bull- which normally would be limited to naturally mating 100 or so cows each year- and then his genetics be limited to that calf crop- and it's purchasers---  would have less genetic influence on a breed than say a bull who is collected weekly and mated to a couple thousand cows each month via AI? 

Is no ET work a bad thing?  Wouldn't that improve the quality of the nationwide cow herd?  Wouldn't that be a result of everyone trying to make every cow better-- instead of just trying to make every cow have a calf from another cow-- and 20 cows having genetically identical calves?  How does one donor cow- who's flushed monthly- owned by 10 breeders- have less influence on a breed than say one 10 year old cow who's calved every year, twins once- and only has 9 calves registered to her name-- as opposed to the above cow who might have 20 calves registered a month.?

When you have a breed, with each group of producers doing their own little thing-- you have tons and tons of options to choose from- you just have to go out and find them at a sale somewhere.  When you AI- every body and their brother can use the same bull... 

Because I have a cattle visions book laying next to my chair- and this is a show steer website- I just counted the number of club calf sires that have Heatwave and/ or Who Made Who- in 3 generations---  79 do, 35 don't.  That doesn't sound like much diversity to me- even though I have the option of choosing from just over 100 bulls-- does it matter if 80% of them are nearly the same genetically?  That basically limits me 20 genetics to choose from-- or I would guess the same number I could travel to check out bulls in a sale- within a day's drive of my house.

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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2012, 11:53:28 AM »
Th th th th th th th th th tht
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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2012, 12:00:39 PM »
You are ignoring this user. Show me the post. 

I struggle to read what you say?

 

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