prices of Ali semen

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What has everyone heard on the price of Ali semen? I looked & SEK still has it for $200. Top Sires is $120. someone told my nephew he could get it for $40. Told the nephew the guy better be buying it up! anyone else hear of that wide of a difference?

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  In light of this news, Gizmo is way under priced. Ali doesn't have enough big time winners or cattle in production for him to be worth IMO $30-$40 dollars top. JMO. There are clones coming so they say.
 

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i've noticed the same spread.  best example of a newly restricted product on the market in it's search for a stable price.  in vacuum's like this, people make money that is not available from traditional stable markets, ie when he was alive and producing.

there is a double bred energizer son matched up with energizer at the same spot, ie,  that will probably do the same thing.

dcc smokin joe 157P

http://maine-anjou.weaveyourwebdreams.com/breed/pedigree.asp?RegNo=337244

he's diluted for legacy, so maybe he's more moderate, then again, he's stacked again with smithbuilt being double bred warchief, and smithbuilt is on the bottom through eclipse as well.

seems like a potential replacement.  if i wasn't already stoked, i'd probably give him a try, but i already got my stacked smithbuilts in a moderate package picked out.  don't have any trouble adding more though, especially if he has different markers.  just for grins, only 15 bulls and one heifer from over 1000 tested have one marker and they are all hetero for it.  don't know who they are though.  i wonder if those people know who they are and where they came from, and hopefully not from halfbloods.
 

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Smokin Joe sure warrants watching. Right now though he seems like a bull that is getting hype B/C Ali's gone much in the same manner that Star Power is getting hype B/C Steel Force is off the commercial market and neither of bulls have more than one small calf crop on the ground. Steel Force will be put on great cows @ the cost of his juice. IMO.
 

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I was just looking at the Genex book last night and Ali was priced at 20$ for 2007, but I cant find the reccent price.

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I guess I am totally out of the loop her and probably "hijacking" this thread ( as I find myself doing more and more) but I am a little confused. I am not dissing ALI but I hear a lot of people that have totally differnt views of ALI. If he is really "inconsistant" why would he be worth that much? Like I said I have no idea but i woudl rather pay $15 a straw for something that is incinsistant and may make "a great one" then blow $100 on  straw that may not even take. JMO. IS he really all that he is cracked up to be? I know half depends on the cow. :)))
 

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I think he is very consistent, IMO most of the calves out of him are too plain to be great ones, but he is calving ease making him highly used, I wouldn't pay over  20- 25 for his semen, too many other calving ease bulls on the market.  The reason for the price increase is because there is a limited supply since he is not producing.
 

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I have 3 straws here in NW MO that I would sell or trade.  Drop me a line if your interested
 

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It is generally considered difficult to get a dead bull to produce semen!
 

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There's quite a bit more than one small calf crop out there out of Ali, and there have been several winners sired by him in OK and TX, at least. As with most any bull, the really good ones are almost certainly out of really good cows. I really hadn't been convinced enough to use him 'til last fall, 'cause I had seen plenty of average ones, but in the last year I've seen enough good ones that I decided he was worth a try. As a matter of fact, we've got one on feed this time.

Semen, like anything else, is worth whatever someone's willing to pay. I had the Ali in my tank before the price started going up last fall, so I didn't have a problem using it - at $50+, I'm not buying any unless I find that he niches very well on one (or more) of the cows we bred to him last fall. I hope the clone semen is available by fall, though, because I will use it.
 

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I will say on the flip side of the statement I made, we won the high point Maine heifer buckle in Kansas with a home raised Ali heifer, not baggin on Ali, just think there are plenty of other good choices out there for reasonable money.
 

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We had 10 ALI calves last year out of some of our best cows....10 calves in the feedlot.  No growth, no bone, no nothing.  Almost as bad as our Mossy Oak calves.  I know others had luck with him, he didn't click with ours.  I refuse to buy semen at that price, unless the good lord looks down on my heard and gives me one heck of a calf that tears it up on the show circuit.  That is the reason I'm willing to sell or trade my Ali semen.  Others that can get some good out of it I'm willing to wheel and deal it!
 
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