Bawndoh
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What type/brand of probiotic does everyone use when they need them? Is there an at home remedy that is cheaper...besides shoving a gallon of yogurt down ur steers throat? (clapping)
knabe said:i haven't read too much on probiotics other than the supposedly reduce marbling and increase health and reduce E. coli populations.
is there a probiotic which is not antagonistic to marbling?
this is probably a stupid question, but could a type of stress actually encourage marbling?
why is marbling beneficial to the animal?
simtal said:knabe said:i haven't read too much on probiotics other than the supposedly reduce marbling and increase health and reduce E. coli populations.
is there a probiotic which is not antagonistic to marbling?
this is probably a stupid question, but could a type of stress actually encourage marbling?
why is marbling beneficial to the animal?
Reduce marbling? I haven't heard that, and some recent research says that there was no difference when using steam flaked corn.
stress and marbling have the same relationship that gas and car have.
Olson Family Shorthorns said:When we have one get off feed a little bit at home, we mix in some yeast in their feed. It really seems to get them back on track. A lot of the big time show supplements have yeast in them to promote rumen health. We haven't given a probiotic paste in a few years, but if we HAD to, I think it would be either Probios or Fastrack.
knabe said:probiotics, marbling.
http://www.library.uow.edu.au/adt-NWU/public/adt-NWU20061205.102712/index.html
gonna read this thesis.
A trial involving newly inducted cattle in a feedlot, formed the basis of initial attempts to assess the benefits of a commercial probiotic formulation – Protexin on intestinal health by enumeration of a select subset of cultivable bacteria species and by assessment of immune modulation. The results failed to demonstrate a significant change in the population dynamics of cultured faecal microbes but did show that Protexin stimulated immune responsiveness in T cells.
Carcass analysis demonstrated a significant reduction in marbling or intramuscular fat deposition.
In the course of examining the faecal microflora from feedlot cattle, the presence of high levels of Bacillus spores suggested that one possible reason for the lack of a growth benefit may be attributed to a high endogenous level of bacilli. Since there were no reliable methodologies for identifying Bacillus species, an alternative procedure was developed involving amplified ribosomal DNA restriction analysis (ARDRA). With this protocol, we were able to show that cattle faeces contained large numbers of Bacillus spores representing different mesophilic species, where B. subtilis, B. licheniformis and B. clausii dominated. The presence of a stable population of coliforms in cattle faeces that was not altered by probiotic feeding highlighted the importance of developing better techniques to characterise diversity in E. coli, a potential food-borne pathogen of economic significance to the cattle industry.
maybe this guys's thesis is suspect.