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Does anyone see the major breeders that everyone copies begin the breed to perfection or djs outsider? I think both are plenty useful bulls but the masses won�t use em till the big guys do first. I wish I could get an outsider or perfection female out of a really good cow family

They�re going to have to prove functionality in a herd before anyone uses them for replacement females.

I guess it depends on what major breeders you have in mind. I agree with both of the comments above. The big boys aren't going to dabble until the bulls have enough proven results. They will let everyone else take the risk and they will keep making the same genetics that work for them.

Look at what Cates is doing. They bought Boardwalk and used him for a while. Now they are dabbling in the PVF and JSF scene for outcross bulls. All the while still using Solution and HC lines. The last FSF bull I can remember Cates using was Cornerstone and that wasn't a huge success. That said I do think Perfection is a lot better. WHR just bought Easy Rider and they are still using Waco, Low Rider, Bloodstone, etc. As long as those matings still work they are going to keep using them. If you want to see Perfection or The Outsider on a specific cow line, then your best bet is to buy a cow from that cow family and use The Outsider and Perfection on them.

Essentially, make what you want to see. Take the risk and if it works big copying will be the biggest form of flattery.

Considering the time frame when Compton got outsider in use-there are already A TON of Outsider females and they are coming into production Not all of them are registered  The ones Jim Compton produced are making  good first calvers but come from good cows Outsider is also a pretty good sized bull-Perfection is more terminal and needs to be used on larger cows JMO