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Time for a dumb question.  I am thinking of investing in a heifer out of the Augusta Pride cow family.  From a TH standpoint, would there be any skeletons in that pedigree closet????
« Last Edit: February 25, 2007, 12:51:11 PM by cowz »
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Re: Question for ELBEE, OH Breeder and the rest of the Shorthorn Gang
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2007, 11:02:51 AM »
cowz, everything I could find on her showed up clean for both TH & PHA! Yea!
The horn experts can probably confirm this though.
Good luck if you do.

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Re: Question for ELBEE, OH Breeder and the rest of the Shorthorn Gang
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2007, 11:07:30 AM »
cowz, everything I could find on her showed up clean for both TH & PHA! Yea!
The horn experts can probably confirm this though.
Good luck if you do.

Red

Thanks!  I did not think so either, but felt like I didnt know some of the older lines very well.  I am also humbled by the pedigree experience we have on this board!!!

Any one else got any comments????
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Re: Question for ELBEE, OH Breeder and the rest of the Shorthorn Gang
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2007, 11:18:13 AM »
yes, it's best to talk to either showdawg or OH B, they are a lot more up on the horn genetics than I'll ever be!!!

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Re: Question for ELBEE, OH Breeder and the rest of the Shorthorn Gang
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2007, 12:30:12 PM »
Check the shorthorn web site and see if your heifers dam and sire have been tested. Then pedigree wise look for Deerpark Improver and Outcast for TH and Stinger for PHA - actually why not just have the people test her?

ps I am not ELBEE, OH breeder, or shortdawg and they are grateful I do not play them on TV!  (cow)
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DL, you know you want to play Shortdawg on TV! just admit it! (clapping)

I have a question for the Shorthorn people. I was looking through the Shorthorn catalog for Ohio's Expo. Many of the EPD's were in parenthesises. what does that mean? Gary Bob explained the * symbol to me. But I was just curious about the ( ). this is an example. Some aren't like that.
BEPD (+0.4)
WEPD (+3.3)
YEPD (+7.2)
MEPD (-0.2)

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Time for a dumb question.  I am thinking of investing in a heifer out of the Augusta Pride cow family.  From a TH standpoint, would there be any skeletons in that pedigree closet????
As far as I know the Augusta Pride family is clean. The sire of the cow Augusta Pride goes back to TPS CORONET LEADER 21st. Very Maternal. Coronet leader grandson is her sire. IF I am not totally wrong, I think that Schrag's and Greenhorns had some Augusta Pride offspring in one of the sales and was listed as TH Free Pedigree. Great maternals with the August Pride Family.
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The shorhorn heifer that Josh showed and won all over was an august pride female. Her full sister was the lead in their sale this past fall.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2007, 05:33:13 PM by OH Breeder »
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EPD's in ( ) mean pedigree estimate, I.E., nobody turned in a weight. The most human interaction of any breeding population on the planet, and nobody turn in performance data!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Cowz, I think it would be a wise move to invest in an Augusta Pride female. The heifer in my profile is a Sonny/Augusta Pride 5127. She is a genetic sib to the heifers the Greenhorn's were showing this past season. 5127 and 6127 are full sibs to 3127 which was a champion heifer for Cory Schrag. The 3127's are definitely the most sought after. The Augusta Pride cow family is a very respected cow family in the shorthorn breed. I think most any SH breeder would agree with me on that. E-mail me and I'll send you some pics of mine. As for the TH deal , unless she's bred to a sucpect pedigree I would consider that cow line clean.
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Don't have much to add. The only Augusta Pride I'm familiar with was the Royal Trio's. The way I saw it she was better at daughters than sons. Never heard of any TH in the orginal line, but it sure would'nt hurt to ask for a test.
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EPD's in ( ) mean pedigree estimate, I.E., nobody turned in a weight. The most human interaction of any breeding population on the planet, and nobody turn in performance data!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, some didn't even have EPD's at all, just a blank chart. Very interesting way of doing things. In the Maines, they put down incomplete.
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do Greenhorn's have a website? I looked but couldn't find one.

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They don't have a web-site that I know of .
Eph. 2:8-10

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do Greenhorn's have a website? I looked but couldn't find one.

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If you like Red, I can scan some photos of the August line from the catalog. Their catalog from October has the full sisters on inside page. just let me know. :-\
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Thanks, OH B- I found most of their old sale stuff. I just was curious on a few cattle.
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