Rodeo Augustus Shorthorn Bull

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jsuhr

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Does anyone have any experience with this bull? Pictures? And what is his Reg. number? Thanks
 

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4067349  I believe he won Louisville several years back as a senior calf.  He appeared somewhat moderate for a Rodeo Drive.  His dam is the noted Augusta Pride 3127 cow.  He has been used in several noted herds, I can't recall any real noteworthy progeny off the top of my head.  He was solid red, there have been photos in numerous catalogs and magazines over the years.  Someone should be able to post one with no trouble.  I've got baseball games to coach all week, but might have time this weekend if no one does it before then. 
 

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I was thinking that he was promoted as a way to add his dams influence back into herds.....along with Rodeo Drive also. Ain't nothing wrong. I was always amazed when breeders.......instead of trying to raise good cattle over and over again.....always want a different look. A different fad. Cheers to breeders who just line cattle up genetically. Not trying to make them a little thicker all the time....which always increases BWTS.
 

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I remember when he 1st got to Lawrences-He was pretty green-and allways looked like a Rodeo.Got pictures of him somewhere.He won Louisville but we never got around to using him much:Stouts had a son I think JY Augustus or similar name that they were happy with;and there was another son or relative on SEK or Cattle Visions awhile back promoted as a CE deal O0
 

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I would have a hard time believing a bull with his background would be calving ease, at least very consistently.  Adding Dreamboat (through AF Warrior 195) to Rodeo Drive seems to me to be asking for trouble.  Doesn't always work that way, though.  Razor's sold a 3127 son several years back sired by Double Vision that I thought was extremely good.  I kind of lost track of where he went, but I always liked that calf.  Unfortunately, the odds were that he might have carried one defect or the other.  Maybe Garfunkel was his name. 
 

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I just looked it up and the Double Vision son of 3127 was named Garfunkel and the listed owner is Bob Duis.  Pedigree shows him as THF. Evidently somebody else liked him as much as I did.
 

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On the brighter side, at least he doesn't carry any trump or double stuff.  If you've got some grown out cows, try him- if nothing else, you oughta at least get some growthy, terminal type calves out of the deal. 
 

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I agree with Oakview on the pedigree; and as far as terminal,thats not what he looked like, to me he looked like a rodeo and when I said "green" I was alluding to hardoing looking.Lawrence also had a full brother  ( or 3/4) to Garfunkel that Andy Grathwohl showed ar Denver etc,and who ended up at Nancy Grathwohl Heeters. Again-he was a big hardoing looking long bull,that didnt have enough butt on him for me. Although the environment in that part of Kansas isnt the easiest-he looked more like something from Evergreen Seville. I used Warrior some,and didnt really have any BW problems, but they didnt milk well,and I dont think I would use him again. O0
 

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mark tenenbaum said:
I agree with Oakview on the pedigree; and as far as terminal,thats not what he looked like, to me he looked like a rodeo and when I said "green" I was alluding to hardoing looking.

And I think rodeo drive would be an excellent option to use as a terminal sire for the producer who gets paid by the pound at weaning- that is if you can get the calves out alive.  His shear size really limits his usefulness elsewhere.
 

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In my opinion, there are many, many better choices for Shorthorn performance than Rodeo Drive. 

I haven't heard Seville mentioned for many years.  Maybe that's a good thing? 
 

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I'm just going by my personal experiences with those lines.  I've had much higher performing cattle from other genetics.  I don't completely trust BEPDs either.  Actually, not much at all.
 

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I walked up to Rodeo on a couple different occasions when he was at Cates. He was very good natured ,solid red,and looked a lot like his progeny-not very deep,long legged,long bodied,and for the times,he just wasn't that big.Deertrail Awesome -who came along later ended up absolutely huge,and Deertrail T-bone who I also saw from a calf till he was fullgrown at Cates-was pretty big-way bigger than Rodeo.Rodeo didn't really look like a Shorthorn-espescially in his muscle pattern-but also wasn:t a terminal end all be all type-to me:albeit his calves shape and BWS. made him a hard calver. O0
 

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Is this the original Rodeo Drive?
HS Rodeo Drive 062WR
SIRE: RPS Tribune 82 • DAM: HS Ultrabrite
DATE OF BIRTH: May 3, 1987 • Polled
 

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That is one of the more common Rodeo Drive photos.  My experience is just like Doc says about the udders.  No problem there.  As to his genetic background, I have no idea.  There was another calf that came about a year later, I think his name was HS Sunset Strip or something like that.  He had a certain look about him, too.
 

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Bar none the highest performance Shorthorn bull I ever used was Jam's Uh-Huh.  I've mentioned him on this site before.  His calves grew so fast that if I hadn't seen it for myself, I wouldn't have believed it.  They were among the larger calves I've had at birth, too.  I used a son, Oakview Generator, for a year or two.  Dale Studer borrowed him for summer calves one year and told me his son told him those summer calves would fit right in for size with the spring calves.  That was probably close to 20 years ago.  Another son I raised, Oakview Ignition, was out of a 7/8 Dollar II cow and he had even more performance.  I only used him a little bit mostly because of his white legs.  When the Uh-Huh calves were young, our neighbor, who raised some of the old style fullblood Simmentals, would stop by at least once a week and comment about how he had never seen calves grow so fast in his life.  They weren't perfect by any means, but they did grow.  Uh-Huh's pedigree is a very interesting combination of genetics.  I've had good luck in the past with the infusion of some old Maine genetics.  I've had calves out of Dollar II, Cunia, Covino III, Capone, Epinal 81E, Cygne, and probably a few others I can't remember and liked them all in combination with the other genetics I had.  The Cunia offspring were not particularly fast growing, but they made the best cows of the bunch.  I had a Cunia female out of a Rodeo Drive cow that was a tremendous female, type wise.  I lost her after only a calf or two, though.  Another Cunia daughter, out of an AFK Powerplay cow I believe, raised a heifer out of my herd bull, GR Coptop Trampas, that Dale Studer bought and won the Minnesota State Fair with.  On the other end of the spectrum, my experience with Double Stuff, Windstar, Outrageous, etc., was that the WW and YW EPDs could not be negative enough.  If I just wanted to raise fast growing, good feeding commercial cattle I don't think I'd be far wrong using a son of Covino III out of a Dividend or Leader 18th cow on my main cow herd.   

 

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I remember this from NAME THE BULL! Is it probable or just fooling around? I thought there was Chianina in there or something.
cccf said:
capone....  the REAL sire of G9.

Rodeo Drive is built similar to Sutherland Ransom 179.
But Mollies Defender Adair is a bull I really like, so depending on how the genes fall out, I can start to understand why I see Rodeo Drive in pedigrees where he doesn't seem to fit...to me, anyway.

Capone
179
Rodeo Drive
Mollies Defender Adair ( I think)
 

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