Saskvalley Yesterday 116Y progeny and other

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Duncraggan

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Got my first Saskvalley Yesterday 116Y calf on Wednesday, bull, out of a first calf Spry's All Gold D052 daughter. BW 38kg (84lbs), came breach but was an easy assist.
 

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Duncraggan

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Also had four Crawfdown Fighter Pilot calves last week, two heifers and two bulls, average 42.75kg (94lbs) with a high of 49kg (108lbs) and a low of 38kg (84lbs).
 

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Congrats! Nice looking calves and man I can't wait for the green grass!
 

wiseguy

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I am very high on Yesterday and have had 4 calves by him in the last week. However, your post triggered an interest as two of mine were malpresentations with one breech and one with both front legs folded under. I've done some research and breech births are often associated with the sire. However, my test sample is very small and I am interested in others experience.
 

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JTM said:
Congrats! Nice looking calves and man I can't wait for the green grass!
It is the first decent followed up rains we've had, been patchy until now. As you can see the cows are a bit down on condition but I was wary of feeding them in case of dystocia. Was planning on putting them onto a production lick as they calved but it seems as if the rain saved me!
 

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We had a commercial Limousin heifer calve that was AI'd to Yesterday. We were hoping for a bit of color, but we got the traditional fawn limo color with just a wee bit of white on one side of his navel. He came out unassisted at 89lbs and a week over (large framed heifer mind you), but built right for an easy delivery. Super smooth shouldered with a nice head. This picture was taken with him about 1 month old.
 

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Duncraggan

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wiseguy said:
I am very high on Yesterday and have had 4 calves by him in the last week. However, your post triggered an interest as two of mine were malpresentations with one breech and one with both front legs folded under. I've done some research and breech births are often associated with the sire. However, my test sample is very small and I am interested in others experience.
Interesting theory, do you by any chance have the links to the articles?
 

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he is #1 on my list to use on some heifers this year. I had never heard that there was a correlation between sire and malpresentation?  I just figured that it was bad luck!! 
 

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We are sampling Yesterday.  He looks the part and his numbers are fantastic. 

I agree that heredity is important when considering abnormal presentations--there may be an article in a Beef Magazine.  Some breeders will not keep a calf for a bull if he was born backwards.  When you researched breech births, did you find the thread (I'm not sure if it was on this message board or another one) that suggested that cows should not be running on extremely rough, unlevel pasture just ahead of calving, because that leads to more breech births?  The only two breech births we have had, were both in a very hilly pasture where cows regularly climbed a steep creek bank.
 

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The article I was referencing was from Beef magazine in which a vet found that when operations had a large sampling of Breech calves they were mostly always from the same sire group. I always thought it was the calf just not turning correctly during gestation. Again, these are just "ideas" not enough evidence. For me I will be using Yesterday another year on heifers and a few cows. The quality thus far makes me willing to handle the "risk."

As far as terrain, I live in one of the flattest places in Illinois. In fact, the area is nicknamed "race-horse flats" so I'm sure that had nothing to do with it.  I probably would have never commented had Duncraggan not mentioned his breech calf.

 

Duncraggan

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Duncraggan said:
Got my first Saskvalley Yesterday 116Y calf on Wednesday, bull, out of a first calf Spry's All Gold D052 daughter. BW 38kg (84lbs), came breach but was an easy assist.
This was a badluck story of note!
The cow had prolonged, heavy vaginal bleeding after calving, I called the vet and he brought her back from the brink of death due to redwater, diagnosed from a blood smear. Saw him socially about two weeks after his visit and he asked me if she was still alive as he had commented to his wife that evening that she was beyond saving.
The calf died a month later due to heartwater. They were on my tick-free valley pastures as we are in autumn and they are pampered if they are autumn calvers.
The good news here is that she is cycling and she is set up through a CIDR programme to be AI'd to Homedale Accomplished tomorrow morning at 10h00.
Hope all goes well!
 

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My first surviving live male calf finished Phase C testing last week and I received the figures earlier this week.
ADG of 4.73lbs per day over the 84 day test! This is a standardized low energy diet feeding programme, for them not to pack fat. FCR of 6.02 and a Kleiber ratio of 20.33, 112 index for that!
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