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Title: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: cowboy_nyk on September 17, 2014, 10:13:49 AM
Since it often gets brought up about what calving ease bull to use on clubbys and Bismarck is often mentioned, I thought I'd post a couple pics of my Bismarck 2yr old. 

The first pic is about three weeks after calving and the second is mid summer.  If you don't like her, that's ok but she's one of my personal favorites at my house.  Last pic is her calf at weaning this year.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: kiblercattle on September 17, 2014, 10:16:59 AM
I like her and her calf. Have you had very many Bismarck calves? I have some semen in the tank but I ve heard reports about them being shallow heeled. Is that your experience?
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: cowboy_nyk on September 17, 2014, 10:30:54 AM
That's definitely a risk with some of his calves.  She tends to be bit that way herself. Not to such a degree that I will ever need to trim her feet or anything.   My parents have a handful of Bismarck cows that are better in that regard.  Like any bull, if you wish to use him, know his limitations.   I certainly wouldn't use him on a shallow heeled female, but on a clubby type (straighter leg) I see no reason not to.

 His other  "fault" would be soft toplines.  I have seen some bulls out of him (including a couple of influential AI sires) that drop behind the shoulder like crazy.  Again, if you know this up front it's less of a problem.  This cow is just fine in her top.  Her bull calf has an exceptional topline so it's not like it's a major problem.

All that being said, we bred 20 more to Bismarck this year.  The females are hard to beat.  Amazing udder quality, wicked front ends, lots of volume.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: HiddenCreekCattle on September 18, 2014, 10:10:20 AM
I agree with cowboy nyk on everything he said. I have to calves out of first calf heifers that both break a little behind their shoulders. He definately brings some nice things to the table tho. As he said the calves are rocket fronted and what really got me was the amount of rib shape these calves exhibit at such a young age. I could add some pictures but they would be a lot like cowboys showing rib shape. The other thing that I really like is the fact that with all the stuff he brings to the table, granted some negetive, he does it with a 97% accuracy for calving ease and in my mind it is a no brainer to use him on first calf heifers whether they click or not. I am looking for a live calf at birth not a barn burner.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: -XBAR- on September 18, 2014, 01:46:10 PM
Hard not to like that cow.  After depth, I think width is most important and she has plenty of it.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: Doc on September 18, 2014, 07:20:53 PM
We bought an Angus bull to use as clean up on our heifers this year and he was out of a Bismarck 1st calf heifer. She was really nice with a 1st class udder. She was one of the things that helped sell me on this bull.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: cowboy_nyk on September 19, 2014, 07:58:04 AM
Below is a terrible photo of our Bismarck son that we used on heifers.  He's a 2yr old.  Was pictured after breeding approx 30 females.  I think he has a lot of good attributes.  Most importantly, he bred 20+ heifers last year and we didn't touch on calf!
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: cowboy_nyk on July 20, 2015, 01:20:54 PM
I took my girl "Bizzy" out on the showroad last week and she was named Champion Female at our provincial Angus Show.  I snapped this pic on pasture when we got home and thought I would share.  She's my favorite cow so I never get tired of taking pictures of her.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: Sizzler14 on July 21, 2015, 11:49:31 AM
This is our Bismarck heifer. She's a Bismarck x trademark x sheza dandy. Shes pretty green in the pic
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: cowboy_nyk on July 21, 2015, 11:54:19 AM
Sizzler, your heifer looks great.  Great front end, lots of middle, and looks to have plenty of thickness.  Hopefully she turns out as good as my Bismarck cows have.  If so you'll love them.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: Sizzler14 on July 21, 2015, 02:13:26 PM
thank you. I'm a fan of her. I'm a FAn of his females. I think their very useful. They're the type that the cowboys want and the ones that don't necessarily fit the bill for the traders but raises the calves that do via natural or ET calves
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: kiblercattle on July 21, 2015, 03:52:55 PM
I really like your cow cowboy nyk. I kept 4 Bismarck fall heifer calves this spring and they look very similar to her. One has a little more attitude than I would like but I can work around that. I hope their feet hold up.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: cowboy_nyk on July 22, 2015, 08:22:01 AM
Thanks Kibler.  I'm sure their feet will be functional.  We've got quite a few females between my parents' place and mine and they all seem to be ok.  Not all of them have "show ring quality" feet but they are all functional (no lameness, don't need trimmed) and all have exceptional udders.

Interesting on the attitude.  This particular cow has Net Worth as the MGS and Emulation EXT as the Great MGS so i assumed the worst.  She was a challenge to break but now she is the quietest cow on the farm.  My two year old daughter brings her town friends to come scratch Bizzy in the pasture.  She even rode her at the fair last week lol.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: cowboy_nyk on July 22, 2015, 11:32:01 AM
This Bismarck bull calf was Reserve Champ bull at our provincial show.  He is super docile.  So much so that my 2 yr old showed him herself for the peewee class.  "My buddy Fargo!" was all she kept saying.  I'm not sure I'll ever be able to sell him now...
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: Larissa on July 27, 2015, 05:19:10 PM
The cow sure looks like a tank- she's got so much bone and power! Good luck with them!
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: cowboy_nyk on September 30, 2015, 09:12:16 AM
Well I intend to turn Mary KT 30Z into a donor so I thought I should get her pictured.  Wife and I managed to snap this one (without ending in divorce).  She really is an ideal type of femal in my mind (the cow and my wife  ;))
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: cowboy_nyk on February 25, 2016, 03:46:08 PM
We sold the heifer calf off our girl last fall and just got an updated picture (below) from the buyers.  I'm really happy with how the calf is coming along, especially for just an April baby. Also is a pic of my cow getting her scratch.  She's due any day now. Hoping for another heifer!
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: cowboy_nyk on March 13, 2017, 02:38:59 PM
Snapped a couple pics of the 2016 heifer calf off my Bismarck cow.  Before and after the clip job.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: cowboy_nyk on March 13, 2017, 02:40:44 PM
She had a bull this year. 
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: SIMMGAL on March 14, 2017, 05:42:26 AM
Well, this just makes me want to use Bismark now! Very impressive set of cattle! I'm really liking your cow's build, and her calves knock my socks off even more!  (thumbsup)
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: BroncoFan on March 19, 2017, 10:54:07 PM
This calf is out of a BismarckXChopper 1st calf heifer and a LuttonXMaine bull. He is standing on a downhill slope. He is a month old.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: cowboy_nyk on March 20, 2017, 07:30:49 AM
Nice calf Bronco!  Looks like he's got some shape to him.  Looks promising.  Keep us updated.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: BroncoFan on March 20, 2017, 07:38:59 AM
Nice calf Bronco!  Looks like he's got some shape to him.  Looks promising.  Keep us updated.
Thank you!! We were just glad to get a live calf out of our heifer. We know he's not a barn burner but we think he should be at least a competitive county fair and some state fairs steer. Our BismarckXChopper heifer is milking better than a lot of the 2nd calvers so this calf is getting plenty of groceries.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: cowboy_nyk on March 20, 2017, 11:19:10 AM
Always the goal to get a solid, live calf the first time. Them Bismarck make great mommas.  Get her bred right next time and she'll have the milk to get you a great one  (thumbsup)
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: BroncoFan on March 21, 2017, 11:30:28 AM
Always the goal to get a solid, live calf the first time. Them Bismarck make great mommas.  Get her bred right next time and she'll have the milk to get you a great one  (thumbsup)
We are thinking of AI-ing to Comfort Zone (hoping for a heifer) this May before breeding her clubby down the road
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: Dooder on March 24, 2017, 01:02:46 AM
Every time I see a bizmark heifer bull or cow I really wish I could use him. But I am at too high of an altitude.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: StagecoachCattle on March 25, 2017, 04:38:26 PM
Here is our Bismark, the semen come in the used tank I purchased and opted to use it on my heifer in my avatar photo.

The cow is a No Surprise daughter, small framed (3.5-4), heavily muscled, too fat and a PHAC. We had a hard winter, it stayed in double-digit negatives at night for several weeks and we had deep snow which kept the cows from getting any exercise....you might guess where this is going....the resulting heifer came 6 days early but was 86 pounds and a very hard pull. 

I am not sure how to feel about the results I do feel like I probably shouldn't have kept the heifer in the first place, but hindsight is 20/20. Anyways, the calf is a cutie, we named her Cinderella as she came on the first night of the NCAA tourney.  I'll have to get better photos when things aren't as gross and muddy.

I will likely go ahead and use him on a Daddy's Money heifer this year because I do like the looks of this heifer and have a feeling this year was just a perfect storm of genetics and conditions.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: cowboy_nyk on March 27, 2017, 08:50:40 AM
Here is our Bismark, the semen come in the used tank I purchased and opted to use it on my heifer in my avatar photo.

The cow is a No Surprise daughter, small framed (3.5-4), heavily muscled, too fat and a PHAC. We had a hard winter, it stayed in double-digit negatives at night for several weeks and we had deep snow which kept the cows from getting any exercise....you might guess where this is going....the resulting heifer came 6 days early but was 86 pounds and a very hard pull. 

I am not sure how to feel about the results I do feel like I probably shouldn't have kept the heifer in the first place, but hindsight is 20/20. Anyways, the calf is a cutie, we named her Cinderella as she came on the first night of the NCAA tourney.  I'll have to get better photos when things aren't as gross and muddy.

I will likely go ahead and use him on a Daddy's Money heifer this year because I do like the looks of this heifer and have a feeling this year was just a perfect storm of genetics and conditions.

That does sound like quite a list of extenuating circumstances. At 86 pounds it would be heavier than any bismarck I have had and where I live bw are consistently 5-10lbs higher due to the cold. Glad to see she's doing well.  It's certainly a nice calf. Best of luck.
Title: Re: SAV Bismarck Female
Post by: StagecoachCattle on March 27, 2017, 10:35:49 PM
Here is a photo of her from tonight. I look forward to watching her grow and will use Bismarck again next year I am sure.