SHADYBROOK GOLIATH 68TH

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I like these Eagle bulls, so I am trying to figure out what SHADYBROOK GOLIATH 68TH looked like. Goes anyone have a picture of him?
I am also wondering about SUTHERLAND LEADER 258.

This is a picture of ?Eagle 202nd

 

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It is interesting to see a photo of RB Eagle 202 as he is a full brother to RB Red Eagle Y2K a bull we got from Ralph Larson, Y Lazy Y Shorthorns in Montana. Y2K is the sire Diamond Prophecy 21P. Another full brother RB Eagle 226 was used at Byland for years and another RB Eagle 172 was also imported to Alberta and used in the Shamrock herd. Ralph also had other sons and daughters of RB Ruby 126 which he purchased in the Rocker dispersal. RB Ruby 126 is also the dam of RB Ruby 174 a full sister to the above bulls. Ruby 174 and her daughter RB Ruby 177 were both owned by K-Kim and 177 was in the K-Kim ET program.

Shadybrook Goliath 68th would be one of 32 animals in the 5th generation of 202's pedigree so only contributes 3.125% of the genetic makeup to these sibs!
 

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Y2K also contributed probably more than a little to a pretty good bull I have, Diamond Zulu.  It seems as though the Eagle line adds some muscle. 

Shadybrook Goliath 68th x came from Bert Hansen of Minnesota.  Bert had some of those larger framed polled Shorthorns that many needed in the 60's and 70's.  Studers and Torgersons won some major shows with Shadybrook heifers during that period.  A few Haumont heifers were pretty tough to beat, too.  I just happened to be looking though an old Shourtorn World last night from years ago and Bert's ad was an aerial photo of his farm.  I'm sure I can find a photo of Goliath or at least of some other Shadybrook cattle to post.
 

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I would like to see a picture of the 68th as well.This bull is very strongly linebred to King Collynie Jr.from top to bottom of his pedigree.I quit at 15 times and I don't have all the info available.There are many others in the pedigree that are bred similar to the Jr.Collynie Jr.was the result of crossing the Sultan and Marshall strains and had none of the pony type in his pedigree.I have attached a picture of King Collynie Jr. and his son Collynie Sensation who appears 8 times in 68th's pedigree.
None of this would mean much except for the fact that I have a 68th son out of similarly bred cow in the tank that I am hoping to use this spring.I would also point out that 26a's pedigree has a strong Collynie Jr's influence spread through out his pedigree as well.
 

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I know I have seen a picture of Shadybrook Goliath 68th somewhere here, and if I have time I will do a search through the mountain of old breed magazines I have shelved in our attic. It may take me awhile, but I will see if I can find a pic. If it is the picture I am thinking of, he is pretty impressive.... even today.
 

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Searching SP for references to the Goliath bull, I found this thread where JIT describes some of"Jim Scafe's walking bulls"
If your weather I'd as lousy as ours is today, this is
http://www.steerplanet.com/bb/the-big-show/white-shorthorn-bulls-t28493/msg268212/#msg268212 a good read

Thanks rn for the picture of the Junior bull. He is my new hero. To me, that is what a Shorthorn is supposed to be.

I hope a Goliath picture shows up. If he was owned by a semen company, maybe someone will find some semen.
 

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librarian said:
I like these Eagle bulls, so I am trying to figure out what SHADYBROOK GOLIATH 68TH looked like. Goes anyone have a picture of him?
I am also wondering about SUTHERLAND LEADER 258.

This is a picture of ?Eagle 202nd
Again sorry for the photo quality but here is an ad with Sutherland Leader 258 at a young age. 1984
 

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That's a cool ad I remember seeing a picture of the atlas bull before. What's his real name and what's the story behind him? I ve never seen a picture of lcs designer before.
 

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kiblercattle said:
That's a cool ad I remember seeing a picture of the atlas bull before. What's his real name and what's the story behind him? I ve never seen a picture of lcs designer before.
That is CCS Atlas a son of Deerpark Leader and out of Hillnook Ellen. Byland did a lot of linebreeding to Ellen and also used two sons out of her by Columbus, CCS Explorer 1492 and CCS Hawk.
IN000007 DNA-N DEERPARK FOUNDATION
  IN7 DNA-N DEERPARK FOUNDATION
                N000007 DNA-N DEERPARK FOUNDATION
Sire: 3710552 DNA-N DEERPARK LEADER

  IN8 DNA-N DEERPARK KILRUSH
CCS ATLAS
              xCB424575 DNA-N WESTON TRADEMARK 2ND
xCB429798 DNA-N STONE OAK PROUD BOY
              C572731 DNA-N STONE OAK PRIDE N
Dam x3617851 DNA-N HILLNOOK ELLEN
              CB407117 DNA-N GLENKAIR UNDERHILL
xC585419 DNA-N HILLNOOK SALLY 2ND
                xC531434 DNA-N HILLNOOK SALLY
 

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Bert Hanson's advertised his herd of dual purpose cattle in the Shorthorn World , often with milk records. Similar to those of Haumont//Cooksley cattle. Off to find a picture or 2
 

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scotland said:
Bert Hanson's advertised his herd of dual purpose cattle in the Shorthorn World , often with milk records. Similar to those of Haumont//Cooksley cattle. Off to find a picture or 2
In the early 60s my dad bought a bull from Bert Hanson.  He was a son of Circle S Beacon 2nd.  He was a larger framed bull who left us many good milking cows.  He was not the thickest bull but when I used a son of Fillet on his daughters they produced bulls that topped both the Ideal and Minnesota bull test stations. I have a great deal of respect for Bert Hanson and am glad others remember him too.
 

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5 pages of calves recorded by CCS Atlas on the ASA website, most bred by Byland.  He couldn't have been all bad to have that many calves registered out of him.  Lots of "popular" bulls that never have that many recorded.  I can't recall seeing Atlas, but if Byland used him, he probably was pretty good.  Lots of good bulls work in relative obscurity, but had a lot to offer in their time.
 

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oakview said:
Y2K also contributed probably more than a little to a pretty good bull I have, Diamond Zulu.  It seems as though the Eagle line adds some muscle. 

Shadybrook Goliath 68th x came from Bert Hansen of Minnesota.  Bert had some of those larger framed polled Shorthorns that many needed in the 60's and 70's.  Studers and Torgersons won some major shows with Shadybrook heifers during that period.  A few Haumont heifers were pretty tough to beat, too.  I just happened to be looking though an old Shourtorn World last night from years ago and Bert's ad was an aerial photo of his farm.  I'm sure I can find a photo of Goliath or at least of some other Shadybrook cattle to post.
Oakview besides using Zulu before you we are also using another grandson of RB Red Eagle Y2K, Northern Alphonso 15A. Zulu's dam was by Y2K and 15A's sire is by him.
 

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Less than 30 days left before the spring crop of Zulu's start!  My fall calves continue to look very good.  Long bodied, muscle expression down their tops with excellent rear quarters, good fronts, the eye appeal I like, too.  Looking forward to spring.  How are your spring '14 calves coming along?

 

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oakview said:
Less than 30 days left before the spring crop of Zulu's start!  My fall calves continue to look very good.  Long bodied, muscle expression down their tops with excellent rear quarters, good fronts, the eye appeal I like, too.  Looking forward to spring.  How are your spring '14 calves coming along?
The Zulu heifers are doing well. We pelvic measured the yearling heifers last week and the Zulu heifers passed with flying colours even though they were 9 to 10 months they measured big enough for breeding. I will try to get some photos in the next couple of weeks.
Here is a link to a bull sale catalag for an Angus Sale that also includes 3 two year old shorthorn bulls by Zulu's full brother, Diamond Sergeant York. They are the last lots in the sale. Two of these bulls are 15/16th brothers and all three are 7/8. We are pretty proud to have these full brothers working in such good herds.

http://www.langcocattle.com/Lanco_Kueber_Catalogue_2015.pdf
 

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Three pretty good bulls.  It's nice to see herds with a real breeding plan.  Evidently this herd has a group of closely related females bred for generations with a purpose.  Most of my 50 head breeding herd is pretty close in breeding and I look forward to the next generation of Zulu daughters roaming the pastures.  The fun part will be to find that next herd bull.  I've got 2 semen tanks full to start tinkering with and you never know what you might find running around somewhere.  I've got a couple ideas.....
 

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Out of both tanks, what is your favorite bull in there? Can you chose just one? My tank is almost full. I look forward to seeing some Zulu calves on here soon.
 

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I don't think I could pick just one, but I can tell you some I am considering.  Of course, when picking my favorite one, I have to omit bulls that I have owned (Big Jake and Lazy D Ultimate Type were the two best breeding bulls I've had in 50 years).

Deerpark Leader 18th is a bull that I absolutely love for productive cows.  Every one I have been associated with was moderate, good uddered, and fertile.  I think JIT would say much the same about his 18th son, Irish Mist.  My Leader 18th calves have come easily, too.  I'm using a Leader 9th son on heifers and have had good luck, so far.  More to come this year.  I am planning a mating of his daughters to Leader 18th for the next generation calving ease bull.  I've always admired the Trump X Nobody's Fool line crossed with Leader 18th.  If I had unlimited funds and time, I'd flush all my Nobody's Fool bred females to Leader 18th.  The Leader 9th son's calves just don't have enough performance, but he works for heifers and that is his purpose.  I know there are supposed to be some other bulls out there for calving ease that would perhaps have more performance, but I've had experience with this one and trust him. 

As far as the main herd, I've got a mating in mind involving some fairly retro genetics, not quite back to the 60's and early 70's, but a popular bull that was extremely correct, heavy muscled, and moderate.  He was considered by many to be too moderate in his time.  I'm not ready to say what it is.  I'll start my experiment this year and see what happens.
 

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Bert Hanson's farmstead was very impressive in the Herd Bull issue ad he ran with an aerial photo.  In the big issues he usually advertised his bulls' having "weight for age."  There was a picture of the roan heifer Steve Torgerson (sp.) successfully showed--she was very growthy.  Bert said his cattle were selected for docility and polled traits.  Shadybrook bulls may have excelled at test station.  Hanson was a trail blazer when most of the breeders were still stuck on the pony type.
 
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