shorthorn AI bull

Let's see some shorthorn AI bulls.  3 criteria

1) Dark roan or dark red.  Prefer dark roan. No red neck roans
2) birthweight <=85lbs, positive direct CE
3) Trump & JPJ free

Some bulls that I am familiar with that might interest you



Diamond Prophecy 21P has worked well for us, not only has he been consistent as a calving ease sire in 4 herds to date, but he also is about to enter his 8th breeding season he is available at cattle visions http://www.cattlevisions.com/Shorthorn/Prophecy.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPee0aZd78k


Saskvalley Bonanza 219M  (He is one pound over but I figure that is close with his high CE) http://www.cattlevisions.com/Shorthorn/SaskvalleyBonanza.php


RS DV 034 329 08 http://www.cattlevisions.com/Shorthorn/329.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdBrFTTQBNU&feature=youtu.be

Thanks Jaimie, I'm actually pretty familiar with those 3 bulls.  If I don't go AI I'll use a bonanza x DRC bull I have.  I  like the Prophecy bull,  he sure is powerful on the move.  My cows are about moderate enough, so a minimum 5.5-6 frame bull is what I'm looking for.  I like 5-5.5 frame cows so obviously not interested in bulls smaller than that. 

What about Altar cedar first blood? Anyone use him?  I like the saskvalley primo bull's look too but I realize he's a little bigger bw.  Might try to pick that semen up at the purple banner sale for a few second calvers.

Any mature pics of Sue's Nitro bull?  Or what about sneeds 322 bull that ra-ba~somethin bought? 

JDMC's bonanza son looks Sharp too.  Any bulls not offered at bull studs but have semen available that I'm overlooking? 

Lakeside Doc Clark 918  89lb bw in michigan

-0.6 BW
2.6 ce
58.5 in. Hip Height.
Semen should be available soon at SEK Genetics
$25 unit
$15 Cert.

Chandler said:

Thanks Jaimie, I'm actually pretty familiar with those 3 bulls.  If I don't go AI I'll use a bonanza x DRC bull I have.  I  like the Prophecy bull,  he sure is powerful on the move.  My cows are about moderate enough, so a minimum 5.5-6 frame bull is what I'm looking for.  I like 5-5.5 frame cows so obviously not interested in bulls smaller than that. 

What about Altar cedar first blood? Anyone use him?  I like the saskvalley primo bull's look too but I realize he's a little bigger bw.  Might try to pick that semen up at the purple banner sale for a few second calvers.

Any mature pics of Sue's Nitro bull?  Or what about sneeds 322 bull that ra-ba~somethin bought? 

JDMC's bonanza son looks Sharp too.  Any bulls not offered at bull studs but have semen available that I'm overlooking? 

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Your Bonanza x DRC bull looked great in the pictures you posted of him.  TO be honest I would probably use him over Ai'ing as he has a lot of great characteristics to offer. 

We had some success with Saskvalley Primo 40P he would work very well on second time calvers; we will actually this year hope to be AI'ing a couple to him  if all goes to plan.  The heifers were really very consistent. 

Davis Shorthorns said:

Lakeside Doc Clark 918  89lb bw in michigan

-0.6 BW
2.6 ce
58.5 in. Hip Height.
Semen should be available soon at SEK Genetics
$25 unit
$15 Cert.

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Doc Clark definitely is a even dark roan I hadn't even thought of him as an option (silly me) attached is his current EPD's and his video at NWSS where he was Reserve Senior Champion http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=veBVqQlpH58

Ar Su Lu Massive 3140. He should meet all the criteria that you are wanting. Might check him out, i'm a fan personally. Have had a couple calves out of heifers from him that I am really happy about.

I think these two bulls might be very interesting. Both herd sires in herds with a practical commercial focus.
STUDER's TRENDSETTER
sire: Eionmor Marquis 86G  •  dam: DSF Rona 11K
dob: 2-16-2007  •  bw:  76 lbs  •  color: red • reg: x4127520

     xC459759 DOWNSVIEW RED MIST 53X
  C464995 EIONMOR MASTERPIECE 36D
     xC653934 EIONMOR MOCHICAN HAZEL 36Y
Sire: x3986086 PHA-F TH-F EIONMOR MARQUIS 86G
     C452090 EIONMOR CAMELOT 70L
  xC645681 EIONMOR CAMELOT RUBY 94T
     xC631786 EIONMOR RUBY AME 22L
STUDER's TRENDSETTER
     xC461902 ALTA CEDAR ADMIRAL 46A
  x3995797 RAMSHOLT BALMUCHY PRINCE 24F
     xC650166 RAMSHOLT RITA MAE 18X
Dam: x4024396 DSF RONA 11K
     xC457263 GAFA MOCHICAN
  x3996557 EIONMOR MOCHICAN RONA 6C
     C647664 EIONMOR KNIGHT RONA 62U

CE    BW  WW   YW  MILK   MW   MCE
4.3   0.7    14      22    2        9       1.0

COALPIT CREEK LEADER 6TH ET
SIRE: KINNABER LEADER 6TH   DAM: HHFS IMPOSSIBLE DREAM
DOB 02-09-2008  BW 65lbs.  COLOR:RED   REG:x4147644 PHA-F TH-F

     x2887446 CORONET MAX LEADER
  x3098353 TPS CORONET LEADER 21ST
     2906288 NONPAREIL LADY 163D
Sire: x3425151 KINNABER LEADER 6TH
     x2817011 LYNNWOOD REWARD
  xC522767 BUTTE LEE FAIRY 7TH
     xC398657 BUTTE LEE PRINCESS ROSE
COALPIT CREEK LEADER 6TH ET
     x3909543 PMSY PHA-F TH-F MARELLAN SUPER DAZZLER ET
  x3937622 PS PHA-F TH-F HHFS DREAM WEAVER
     x3865674 PD TS JEANIE MARIE BC
Dam: 3960402 PHA-F TH-F HHFS IMPOSSIBLE DREAM
     x3751304 HOMEDALE VOYAGER
  x3799170 HOMEDALE STELLA V
     x3766994 HOMEDALE STELLA MAE D D
CE      BW       WW       YW      MILK   MW    MCE
11.3   -3.7        2            0        4        5        3.7

HAD TO ADD THE FALL PHOTO OF LEADER AS WELL!

Can the Massive bull cover his tracks?  l really like the looks of him.  Clean fronted, good length, deep chest, Level(with the spine) tailhead, deep red, I like him.

YlazyY's leader bull is a champ for sure.  How does 329 have a 32 for yw while the leader bull is single digits??  I know they shorty epds are bassackwards but when people start registering offspring, shouldn't the numbers adjust with higher accuracies? 

Another bull I really like the looks of -except for the tailhead- is byland mission.  Might be too much for heifers tho.  Studers big john? Sofa cedar top dog 11t?

I have never seen Massive in person, so I can't speak to his movement. I will put a couple pictures of the heifer I had last fall out of him. She was out of a heifer and came early and small, but has grown great.

Okotoks...I love your fall picture of your leader bull! I think that might be your desktop wallpaper!!

Redwine Cattle said:

Okotoks...I love your fall picture of your leader bull! I think that might be your desktop wallpaper!!

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I stole it from Ralph's Y Lazy Y website's herd sire page but if you want to see some more great photos see the Y Lazy Y photo page link below!

They have scenery in Montana almost as good as Alberta (lol)

http://yydurhamcattle.com/photos.html

Bonnels Red Storm bull SEK $15 a straw,-he sired 12-15 calves-3-4 were purebred shorts-1 of those was first in a calf class at the national show-or Jr deal-# 4140385-EPDS- .05,22 18 6 or close this is from memory-DFS RED Rider on a VortecxGREAT Doublestuff cow-who went back to TNT Fastrack and HS Nobodies fool-this is a very attractive,proven calving ease, STOUT-bull-who is a total outcross to the listed cattle-and his calves will grow-Hes the closest thing right now to what Im shooting for in American Shorthorns:along with the two Vogel bulls,mavCharisma and mavBellringer-- O0

329 was not born in the 60's or 70's/// this might be why his YW is higher then coal pit leader?... .  322 - semen available, check with the owners.  Lakeside Nitro's mature picture? Check with the owners? His dam is still going strong .
You're not going to get everything in one mating so why not focus more on longevity in the AI bull ?
Watch Accuracy too.

Chandler said:

Can the Massive bull cover his tracks?   l really like the looks of him.   Clean fronted, good length, deep chest, Level(with the spine) tailhead, deep red, I like him.

YlazyY's leader bull is a champ for sure.  How does 329 have a 32 for yw while the leader bull is single digits??  I know they shorty epds are bassackwards but when people start registering offspring, shouldn't the numbers adjust with higher accuracies? 

Another bull I really like the looks of -except for the tailhead- is byland mission.  Might be too much for heifers tho.  Studers big john? Sofa cedar top dog 11t?

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One needs to remember that a bull like Kinnaber Leader 6th has almost no current offspring so as with any animal with little or no data they are basicly starting with zero or negative numbers.
EPD's were implemented long after they were originally popular. In the case of Coalpit Creek Leader 6th I looked at the few offspring he has on the ground and I think they are showing some pretty good  weaning weights, my guess is his numbers will only get better. I am certainly planning on using this bull some as I really like him.

I will say this about the Leader cattle and my little experience. The females seem to hold their flesh as well as the males with very little input. I haven't fed my Leader grandson  or Leader cow but a hand full of grain literally and they look like they have been on full feed. I also like the way the females calve and milk. Wide hip compact body while heavy milking. Maybe I got lucky with my Leader cattle. I sure like the looks of Leader bull posted. He has the soft made look to him.

Crooked Post Grissom is another bull that should be mentioned. He is being used in Australia,Canada and the US and has some pretty impressive numbers with high accuracy. There were some darn good sons of his at the battle River sale last weekend with the high seller going to Shadybrook. That son had awesome scan results as well.

CE    BW    WW  YW    Milk    MW  MCE
6.9  0.0    31    50      9      24    6.5


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63VjYdGTxNs&feature=player_embedded

Here is a PDF of the EPD's of a group of bulls (from the Shorty heifer bull thread) I have put in the 2012 Spring ones a lot of these bulls are AI sires  (thumbsup)

I would use AR SU LU Massive as well. Have had some really great calves off of him; dark red, polled, easy moving, and easy fleashing. Really great bull and have used him on heifers.

Some great sugestions so far, I would add another that has been posted here on SP several times, HC FL Touchdown 123T.


You can see him here.

http://www.shadylaneshorthorns.com/sires.html

Okotoks said:

Crooked Post Grissom is another bull that should be mentioned. He is being used in Australia,Canada and the US and has some pretty impressive numbers with high accuracy. There were some darn good sons of his at the battle River sale last weekend with the high seller going to Shadybrook. That son had awesome scan results as well.

CE    BW    WW   YW    Milk    MW   MCE
6.9   0.0     31     50      9       24     6.5


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63VjYdGTxNs&feature=player_embedded

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Why isn't this bull more popular? This is one of the best looking shorthorn bulls I've come across.  Homo polled and cherry red!  He might be a little cow hocked (like 90% of shorthorns I'VE seen out there) but other than that- heck of a bull!