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Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« on: May 20, 2019, 01:36:16 PM »
I'm planning on buying some commercial Angus (They will be pretty much purebred) heifers this fall and am looking for a Shorthorn bull to AI them to in April-May 2020. The heifers were born in January/February 2019. I'm looking for a bull with good bone and structure, that doesn't lack in growth and is 100% Shorthorn (Or very close). Needs to be a proven heifer bull, no high birth weights. Some color would be nice too (Love those flashy calves). Any suggestions?
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Re: Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2019, 07:49:49 PM »
KOLT Kane Nitro, Color(white for blue roans), heifer safe and produces marketable calves that turn into good cows.
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Re: Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2019, 09:08:44 PM »
maybe fringe O0
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Re: Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2019, 04:10:41 AM »
maybe fringe O0
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Yea, I probably wouldn't. If you are talking about Phildon JBS Fringe, he has probably one of the highest BEPD in the Shorthorn breed. I would be hesitant on breeding a cow to him.
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Re: Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2019, 05:40:51 AM »
KOLT Kane Nitro, Color(white for blue roans), heifer safe and produces marketable calves that turn into good cows.// Good choice-There is also your Hot Commodity-Dales HotCommodity, Sultan of Jazz,Red Demand, Private Malone,Bread Davis bull Whitey-many quality calves out of heifers-Out of Fringes dam-but he is proven.over a couple hundred calves and a blue maker-has sired a number of bulls in commercial herds  O0

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Re: Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2019, 08:17:32 AM »
KOLT Kane Nitro, Color(white for blue roans), heifer safe and produces marketable calves that turn into good cows.

I definitely like what I'm seeing out of KOLT Kane Nitro, so he will definitely be one that I consider.

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Re: Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2019, 08:18:32 AM »
maybe fringe O0
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Not gonna lie, he's a great looking bull, but I'm just not sure about that BW for heifers.....

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Re: Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2019, 08:44:03 AM »
KOLT Kane Nitro, Color(white for blue roans), heifer safe and produces marketable calves that turn into good cows.// Good choice-There is also your Hot Commodity-Dales HotCommodity, Sultan of Jazz,Red Demand, Private Malone,Bread Davis bull Whitey-many quality calves out of heifers-Out of Fringes dam-but he is proven.over a couple hundred calves and a blue maker-has sired a number of bulls in commercial herds  O0

I love Hot Commodity, just not sure if I want to use him one first time heifers (Due to them sometimes being pains), but I do like Sultan of Jazz. Good looking bull, a relatively good BW, good structure, and nice color. Will have to look into them all a little more, but I do really like those two.

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Re: Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2019, 12:50:58 PM »
Sultan of jazz and Fringe are at opposite ends of the spectrum in all regards.  Not sure how they could both be phenotypically appealing to the same person.

Gilmans envied is a bull Id recommend here. 
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Re: Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2019, 01:19:32 PM »
XBar, I'm assuming you have used Envied (from your comments).  What can you tell me about his calves?  Strengths and weaknesses. 

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Re: Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2019, 03:57:41 PM »
Do the Jazz calves have enough grow to them? I've never seen one with a whole lot of performance.

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Re: Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2019, 05:52:07 PM »
KOLT Kane Nitro, Color(white for blue roans), heifer safe and produces marketable calves that turn into good cows.// Good choice-There is also your Hot Commodity-Dales HotCommodity, Sultan of Jazz,Red Demand, Private Malone,Bread Davis bull Whitey-many quality calves out of heifers-Out of Fringes dam-but he is proven.over a couple hundred calves and a blue maker-has sired a number of bulls in commercial herds  O0

I love Hot Commodity, just not sure if I want to use him one first time heifers (Due to them sometimes being pains), but I do like Sultan of Jazz. Good looking bull, a relatively good BW, good structure, and nice color. Will have to look into them all a little more, but I do really like those two.

Hot Commodity is fine for 1st calf heifers. Wouldn't hesitate for a second to use him on 1st calf heifers and have. Just won't get a lot of color on Angus heifers. Plus $100/straw. If color is last requirement then besides Kane Nitro I recommend SLF Red Hot Commodity (Hot Commodity son we have) $25/straw. We have very good results with him on heifers and cows. We had Champion Purebred and Champion Plus heifers with his daughters at TN Agribition this year.
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Re: Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2019, 05:53:43 PM »
Do the Jazz calves have enough grow to them? I've never seen one with a whole lot of performance.

I've never really been a Jazz fan, myself. JMO
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Re: Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2019, 07:07:52 AM »
Waukaru Goldmine 2109 is totally heifer safe and made some really good cows here and the steers weren't throwaways, we used him over ANxSimAngus cows/heifers. 
Don't know how they'd do in the showring, but as productive commercial beef cows, they've been perhaps the best sired by any of the half-dozen or so Shorthorn sires we've used.

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Re: Shorthorn Bulls to Use on Angus Heifers?
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2019, 07:32:50 AM »
This is Homeplace Hot Commodity triple clean -He froze semen after being on cows as a long yearling and it is headed to CATTLE VISIONS as we speak-Hes got CE and highly documented cattle for many generations behind him-Hes now getting fat on very little-he has 3 Pacer Performance dams in his pedigree-and his dam by Wildside is really good-Dale wouldnt sell her-I dont blame him (Wildside was ALSO CE AND STILL BREEDING COWS AT 13 OR SOMETHING) This bull will probably throw solid colors-I like him and docs bull Both have genetics that have really worked with black cattle-AND ALOT OF HORNS DO NOT NICK -FOR WHATEVER REASONS- O0
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