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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2009, 08:51:16 PM »
I would like to know more about this lucky ralph... I'm guessing with a name like that he's got to be clean

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2009, 09:38:45 PM »
Got to throw American Muscle in there... We have the best crop of calves we have ever had and I am finally happy with the male calves!
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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2009, 07:37:03 AM »
Mark, is Lucky Ralph a PHA carrier? I got one last year-and the cow was clean-so I believe he is. Have 2 this year-the hiefer(full sib to last years) is alot less extreme-hoping shes clean. You almost gotta use a carrier to change them. My bull Jr Walker was a carrier, but very few of his calves were. O0 <beer>


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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2009, 08:23:09 AM »
If you are looking for steers, I'd have to agree with the Warhorse suggestion.  I love JPJ for what he does, but you're probably not going to get a powerful steer there, we have had some really nice Radioactives but they can get too straight and he seems to only click with the right type of cows, I still like the Double Stuffs and depending on your cow is bred he may be a good option, we've had some luck with Double Vision but haven't used him much.

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2009, 02:31:22 PM »
We have had some very good steers out of our bull AberTees The Professor.  We also now have semen on his son AT Rock N Roll Train.  I really think Rock N Roll Train will make better steers than his sire.  He is small framed, some would say too small.  He is very clubby, some would say too clubby--you get the picture.  Both are THF/PHAF.

Go to www.abertees.com to see pictures of both bulls and some offspring of Professor.

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2009, 07:55:26 AM »
I would like to know more about this lucky ralph... I'm guessing with a name like that he's got to be clean
TH free-pha-lucky to be a bull O0 <beer>

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2009, 08:39:53 AM »
Welcome to Steerplanet MaLaine! (welcome)

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2009, 09:46:39 AM »
Thanks Jeff!  Your calves are looking great.

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2009, 07:29:44 PM »
  If the cows are big I would think down sizing is a must. Double Stuff will work on your clean cows, I would think very well. If defects concern you and cost is an issue try our Wild Side bull. He is clean both ways,polled, moderate and sound. He is still running with cows at age 8. He is $15 a unit and certs are still $15 NOT $50 like most. I would be glad to send you photos of some of calves by him over the last few years. His daughters are flat out getting it done for us.

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2009, 12:29:48 PM »
If u like jpj and double stuff might look at Jazzman ( sire- JPJ granddam- Double Stuff)

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2009, 03:16:09 PM »
radioactive at our place was thow aways, not even good feedlot steers.  We sold a JPJ out of a Double Down coe the last 2 years that are powerfull.  If the cow is clean i would defiantly think of D Stuff.

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2009, 07:22:18 PM »
What is the purpose of shorthorn plus cattle?Why do we show appendix cattle? Why do we show purebred cattle? What came first the chicken or the egg? Why weren't any of the dixie chicks elected to congress or a junior college?Why is there air? What is the adress for the shorthorn breeders mutual admiration society?
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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2009, 08:31:29 PM »
After seeing two JPJ heifers at the state fair in Dallas this weekend, I would use him to produce steers. Those heifers were extremely fleshy and would have made some of the best steers I have seen.

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2009, 12:11:07 PM »
NHR, I was there for the slick steer show with some friends - great show. I would use JPJ on larger cattle for sure. I think a bull like Hannibal would work on his daughters IMO
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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2009, 01:36:01 PM »
Some of you might like to try a bull we raised called Oakview 2 + 2 x(7/8).  He's sired by Remember Me out of a Leader Plus cow.  He sires more real muscle than most and is definitely a down sizer.  Shultz Shorthorns (Tony Shultz) owns him now (Shultz Shorthorns website) and his calves have done very well the past few years.  He sired one of the top point steers in a 'Southern state' and also an All-American nominee heifer.  I originally sold him to Dean Fieser in Kansas.  You can ask Dean or Tony what they think of his calves.  I know he's TH free, don't know offhand the PHA status.  We haven't used him much because he's a lot smaller than I like, but if I wanted to raise steers, I'd use him heavily.   

 

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