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Re: Shorthorn sire test and progeny test at Univ of Ill.
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2016, 03:32:03 PM »
I don't know all of the details.  I only know what I have read here on steer planet and what was sent out in the email.  From what I understand this sound like a fantastic opportunity for the breed.  We would gladly apply to take part in this study if we had semen available from a bull that meets the criteria.  We have not drawn a bull for many years because we rarely A.I. anything (we are planning to change that this year).  I wish we had semen available on some of our walking bulls that we are using this year and we would definitely apply to join in the study.  I feel that the cost is acceptable for the data that will be generated.
Thank you Wes for getting the ball rolling on something like this.  This is exactly what this breed needs; to generate real world data.
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« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2016, 05:28:23 PM »
I don't know all of the details.  I only know what I have read here on steer planet and what was sent out in the email.  From what I understand this sound like a fantastic opportunity for the breed.  We would gladly apply to take part in this study if we had semen available from a bull that meets the criteria.  We have not drawn a bull for many years because we rarely A.I. anything (we are planning to change that this year).  I wish we had semen available on some of our walking bulls that we are using this year and we would definitely apply to join in the study.  I feel that the cost is acceptable for the data that will be generated.
Thank you Wes for getting the ball rolling on something like this.  This is exactly what this breed needs; to generate real world data.

Thanks Barry. I know at least one Saskvalley bull will be represented. It was also my suggestion for this to be a joint venture between the ASA and Canadian association, but with time restrictions that was not an option. Maybe if a second year of trials takes place it is something to consider.

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Re: Shorthorn sire test and progeny test at Univ of Ill.
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2016, 05:43:44 PM »
I nominate Jaxon.
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Re: Shorthorn sire test and progeny test at Univ of Ill.
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2016, 09:17:19 PM »
I don't know all of the details.  I only know what I have read here on steer planet and what was sent out in the email.  From what I understand this sound like a fantastic opportunity for the breed.  We would gladly apply to take part in this study if we had semen available from a bull that meets the criteria.  We have not drawn a bull for many years because we rarely A.I. anything (we are planning to change that this year).  I wish we had semen available on some of our walking bulls that we are using this year and we would definitely apply to join in the study.  I feel that the cost is acceptable for the data that will be generated.
Thank you Wes for getting the ball rolling on something like this.  This is exactly what this breed needs; to generate real world data.

Thanks Barry. I know at least one Saskvalley bull will be represented. It was also my suggestion for this to be a joint venture between the ASA and Canadian association, but with time restrictions that was not an option. Maybe if a second year of trials takes place it is something to consider.
If a second year of trials take place and there is enough notice count us in!
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Re: Shorthorn sire test and progeny test at Univ of Ill.
« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2016, 05:40:53 PM »
Does anyone know what bulls are being used?

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Re: Shorthorn sire test and progeny test at Univ of Ill.
« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2016, 02:07:24 PM »
I think the association should be commended for getting this started! The breeders that take advantage of this will learn a lot about their bulls and it will help the breed with accuracy's and getting to the next level.
Here is a recent update on the Morrisons program in Great Britain, that makes two countries, Australia and the UK where premiums are paid for shorthorn beef!

New native breeds scheme announced
Beef Shorthorn has been given a massive boost thanks to a new scheme focusing on Britains traditional native breeds launched by Wm Morrison Supermarkets and their subsidiary, Woodhead Brothers. An additional 16,000 native breed cattle per year will be required to supply the supermarkets three Woodhead Bros abattoirs, up almost 10% on current throughput.

The scheme is open to all British native breeds and their crosses, but singles out the Beef Shorthorn for a special premium. Beef Shorthorns and their crosses will receive 20p/kg in total over Woodheads base price, or up to 75 head, while other eligible native breed cattle will receive a 10p/kg premium, says Morrisons farm operations manager, Andrew Loftus.

The special premium for Beef Shorthorns reflects the supermarket chains long-standing commitment to the Beef Shorthorn breed on its own farm at Dumfries House in Scotland, where it has developed a new feeding regime specifically to enhance the inherent eating quality of the breed and produce a premium product.

Beef Shorthorn BullsBeef Shorthorn Society secretary, Frank Milnes comments: Approximately 27,000 Beef Shorthorn and Beef Shorthorn cross calves registered by BCMS in 2010. This record number demonstrates how the commercial value of the breed is more widely recognised than ever before. A major attraction of the breed has been the ability to produce functional suckler cows: now that we have a premium scheme for Beef Shorthorn beef even more farmers will be encouraged to use the Beef Shorthorn bull in their commercial suckler herds. Its a win win situation.

Morrisons have formed an exclusive partnership with the Beef Shorthorn Society which will promote the use of registered and DNA recorded Beef Shorthorn bulls in the UK suckler herd. Under the scheme farmers, including those who already supply Woodheads will need to apply for approval at least 100 days before they send their first native breed cattle to one of the firms three abattoirs in Lancashire, Lincolnshire and Aberdeenshire. They must be farm assured and agree to finish cattle on a specially developed cereal-based diet.

Eligible cattle steer or heifers, must weigh between 260kg and 380kg CCW. Bulls and OTMS cattle are not eligible. The firm has developed a special carcass grid for the scheme which includes O+ cattle within the target specification.

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Re: Shorthorn sire test and progeny test at Univ of Ill.
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2016, 04:25:14 PM »
Morrisons have went a step further more recently.

"The Morrisons Traditional Beef Scheme will now pay a 30ppkg premium for its cornerstone breed, the Beef Shorthorn an increase from 20ppkg.

The increased premium, which was announced at the Great Yorkshire Show, will further help to boost numbers of Beef Shorthorn cattle.

Latest figures from the British Cattle Movement Service (BCMS) have shown an 18% rise in registrations of Beef Shorthorn calves growth which Morrisons Agriculture Manager Andrew Loftus says is supported by the scheme.

He said: The Beef Shorthorn is now Britains fastest growing native breed and accounts for between 30% and 50% of our traditional breeds range.

Offering a payment premium for the Beef Shorthorn has undoubtedly encouraged farmers to invest in this breed and reflects Morrisons longstanding commitment to the Beef Shorthorn breed.

Morrisons Traditional Beef Scheme has grown significantly since it was launched in September 2011. Traditional cattle are killed at all three Woodheads abattoirs and native breeds account for about 10% of the total cattle kill (about 360 cattle each week).

The scheme is open to all native bred beef cattle, offering a 10ppkg premium for all native bred cattle and 30ppkg for Beef Shorthorns.

Shorthorns currently average a carcass weight of 334kg at 22 months old, with 60% at R grades or better (steer and heifer average).

Another success story for the scheme, which has further underlined Morrisons support of the breed, is that a Beef Shorthorn bull bred on the Morrisons Farm at Dumfries House has recently entered stud with Cogent.

Rothesay Eildon ranks in the top 5% of the breed for both terminal and selfreplacing indexes.

Andrew said: Were advocating his use to our commercial beef producers to breed replacement females.

The breed is well-known for producing long-living, productive females and now the Morrisons Traditional Beef Scheme gives a profitable use for the steers. "


A couple of other links on the subject are below. The first link reports interesting details about bulls for lease. The second link reports about Morrisons hoping to eventually increase shorthorn to 100% of their native beef. The third link is to the bull mentioned in the above article.

http://www.fwi.co.uk/livestock/beef-shorthorn-scheme-offers-price-premium-farmers.htm

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/business/farming/farming-news/145567/morrisons-in-search-for-more-shorthorn-beef/

http://www.cogentuk.com/bulls/signature-beef/detail.php?id=268

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Re: Shorthorn sire test and progeny test at Univ of Ill.
« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2016, 02:22:16 PM »
Latest press release from Morrisons in the UK.


"After six years of working in partnership with the Beef Shorthorn Society, Morrisons is excited to announce the launch of a Shorthorn Beef brand under their Best range in selected Morrisons stores by September.

The product launch will exclusively make Morrisons the only UK supermarket to retail Shorthorn Beef and highlights its long standing commitment to the breed. Tom Richardson, Category Director for Fresh Meat, Morrisons said: We are proud to be launching our new Shorthorn Beef range which we believe delivers unequalled eating quality, the Shorthorn beef is carefully managed from field to fork and processed in our own meat facilities meaning that we assess quality at every stage.

The Beef Shorthorn sired cattle are finished for the last 90 days on a specific balanced diet. Once processed, the choice steak cuts are gently dry aged, which complements the breeds inherent eating quality and produces a steak with great favour and tenderness.

Joe Mannion, Head of Livestock Procurement expressed that: As we grow the Beef Shorthorn scheme we are actively seeking new farmers to join our producer group, to register to become part of the group please visit our website: www.morrisons-farming.com.

Beef Shorthorn Society chief executive, Frank Milnes commented: We are thrilled to witness what is a landmark - the launch of the Shorthorn Beef brand, which will help to connect farming with consumers. We look forward to continuing the journey working with Morrisons to help increase the supply of Shorthorn cattle and make available this very high quality product. "

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Re: Shorthorn sire test and progeny test at Univ of Ill.
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2017, 12:40:21 PM »
Thought this might be worth bringing back to the top. The next round of sire testing is open for entry.

There are also some interesting results within the reported bw contemporary groups. The effects of Patent's 101 and 110 ratios while carrying .86 bw accuracy could be interesting.

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Re: Shorthorn sire test and progeny test at Univ of Ill.
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2017, 06:01:12 PM »
I think you'll need a wakaru bull in there too. Orion would be good.///// AMEN-the most documented consistent Shorthorns of ALL,for many years. O0 O0

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Re: Shorthorn sire test and progeny test at Univ of Ill.
« Reply #40 on: October 31, 2017, 06:28:51 PM »
Best I can tell, about 15 bulls are represented  and the calves are about a month old. The only real data to look at right now is the birthweights. 
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