Show Coat - Sure Coat test

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Tallcool1

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I have been reading about Show Coat for about a year now.  I now understand that there is another product called Sure Coat, which is the same stuff plus a couple ingredients.  Supposedly one of the inventors of Show Coat broke away and started Sure Coat.  Who knows what the story is, and I guess it doesn't matter.

I have decided that it is worth a couple hundred to find out.

We have 3 steers in the cooler right now.  They have been in for about 3 weeks.  We had a heck of a time getting them to drop their winter hair so we went in a little late.  In roughly 1 month, these 3 steers are going to the County Fair.  2 of the 3 are going to be done at the County Fair.  The other one will come back home for 2 months, have the cooler all to himself, and will be out State Fair steer.  All 3 steers are on Melatonin.

We are going to start these 3 steers on Sure Coat this week.  They will get it 5 times/week the first 2 weeks, then 3 times/week after that. 

The day that the State Fair steer comes home, he will be on the 5 times/week program all the way through.

We will take close up pictures and document everything that we learn.

We know how to grow hair, and have never had a steer that we could not put hair on.  Last year was close with a Believe In Me X Full Blood Simmy. 

Most of the testimonials I have been able to find were done either in the fall when they want to grow hair, or in the winter when we wish they would stop growing hair.  I am going to test this stuff in the middle of the summer when mother nature is fighting the process.

Any advice would be appreciated.

 

GoWyo

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Too bad you don't have 3 cloned steers to provide a control and one for each product.  That would be awesome.
 

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I'm not sure that we have just gobs more hair using Show Coat than we did before, but I can guarantee you a couple of things.

1. The hair is way fresher and easier to work using this system.

2.The Volumax soap is beyond compare.

3. The hair comes on quite a bit faster, and comes on more evenly.

4. It fixes almost any skin issue in a matter of a couple of days. We had aggressive ringworm for the first time in a decade this year and once we stared using Show coat on the spots, we had hair back on them in 4 days.
 

Tallcool1

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Olson Family Shorthorns said:
I'm not sure that we have just gobs more hair using Show Coat than we did before, but I can guarantee you a couple of things.

1. The hair is way fresher and easier to work using this system.

2.The Volumax soap is beyond compare.

3. The hair comes on quite a bit faster, and comes on more evenly.

4. It fixes almost any skin issue in a matter of a couple of days. We had aggressive ringworm for the first time in a decade this year and once we stared using Show coat on the spots, we had hair back on them in 4 days.

I want to be sure that I understand what you are saying here.

You have not seen any evidence to support the claims regarding the mass quantities of hair these cattle are going to grow.

The hair is very healthy, much like applying Revive or the like.

The hair growing process will START much quicker.

If that all comes true for me, we will be in good shape.  The challenge we have always had is getting them to start growing hair.  It seems like we spend 45-60 days just getting them in the mood to grow hair, and the last 20-30 days is when they actually get around to putting on a couple inches of that hair.

If we in fact notice significant hair growth in 3 weeks, we will put the wool on this State Fair steer.
 

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I think the dramatic hair growth part of it would be more pronounced if I had trouble getting the girls hairy usually.

We're showing a June Bloodstone heifer and she's the hairiest heifer we've taken to the Jr National. But she's also been on the summer regimen since April 5 and has had every opportunity to grow hair except a cooler.

I prefer Show Coat to regular Revive 100% in the summer.  It is way way lighter and easier to work with.  Similar effect as far as moisturizing and softening though.

It cleared up bed rot on a calf we got in for custom work in a couple of days. So it's great for the skin if nothing else. Which is very key in the whole hair growth thing.
 

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Olson Family SH.....I see you liked the Volumax. Did it suds up good on the hair? We used it and could never see white suds or any suds for that matter. Steer hair had been rinsed, worked daily and washed 3 times a week for over a month before we tried Volumax. <<Guess my point is, the steer was clean and hair in great shape before buying. Wasn't impressed with the shampoo unless I just happened to have gotten a bad bottle.  Don't think theres a wrong way to use it. I am a firm believer in the Show Coat though!! Will be using that again
 

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No, almost no suds. That's how it's supposed to be. There may not be a wrong way to use it, but some ways work way better than others. We put 2-4 ounces in a fogger and fog it in with one blower motor. Then we use a scrub brush to work it in and let it sit for a few minutes. Then we rinse as usual.
We don't use it to get a nasty one clean, we use it to help keep the hair fresh, which it certainly does. If one is really dirty, we use clear choice and a lot of scrubbing because anything more stout that that is hell on shorthorn hair in the summer.
 

lomac

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We used it the same way. Was weird not seeing any suds. Was like we were scrubbing a wet steer w nothing on there lol. The hair was healthy as well as the skin throughout use. Maybe we will try it again now that I know I'm not crazy on the suds thing lol. Thanks
 

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Off topic but reminds me of a good friend of mine talking about a car wash convention. I was like"what the hell do they talk about there" he said most of it was the soap they use and how certain colors and more suds were preffered by customers when reality neither of those have anything to do with how clean the vehicle gets. It was all about perception
 

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I was also very confused by not seeing suds on the calf. The first time I used it, I smelled the calf to make sure something was on there! (lol) I've only used the system for a couple of weeks now and am beginning to see a difference. Although I have noticed growth, I have also noticed rapid shedding at the same time, which I would assume is the original coat which was unhealthy or dead.
 

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It's normal to shuck hair when you start growing new stuff in. I get nervous when I don't get just a few hairs in the comb when I run through them wet in the summer.

You're about in that window where you should notice a marked improvement in hair quality.

I also advocate using the Dress Coat at least a couple times a week. I use it every other night, and every night for a week leading up to a show. You don't need a lot, just a mist on top of the Show Coat really helps condition and relax the hair.
 

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Update

I can't get any pictures that really show what the Sure Coat is doing on our steer.  I wish I could, but the photos just don't show anything probably because the hair is just starting to come on really good.

We have been on Sure Coat for 3-4 weeks.

The steer that we ended up keeping home from County Fair is by no means good haired.  He really didn't hair up until November as a baby.  Before that, it was so-so.  Nothing to be too proud of.

At County Fair time, this steer didn't have enough hair to even comb it up on the wash rack when he was wet.  He was slick like an onion, except a few areas on his body that he had never leg go of his winter hair.  It wasn't thick enough to get with a shedding comb, and since we decided not to take him to County Fair, I didn't feel like manually pulling it out.

As soon as County fair was over, we started roto brushing on this steer, from poll to switch, hoof to tailhead.  About 2 weeks ago, he let go of all his old hair.  Every brush on the place was full of 1/2 inch hair.  I saw this as a sign that he was getting ready to start growing hair.

Last night, the guys that raised the steer stopped to check in on him.  They hadn't seen him in about a month.  They were absolutely shocked at the amount of hair he was putting on.  Basically, they were starting to think that he was maybe one that just wasn't going to grow much hair.

Hair is really healthy (which it should be, it is only 3 weeks old), and his skin shows absolutely no signs of dryness or dandruff.

We have 40 days to go, and if he continues as he has been, we could be ready to go in about half that amount of time.

This steer is still on a hot ration.  We are putting all the corn in him that he will eat.  He is about 100 pounds away, so there won't be any cooling off his ration to help with hair growth.

Some others have eluded to my next comment in other threads.  When they start growing the hair, it comes on fast.  That is exactly what we are seeing. 

Based upon the fact that we know how to grow hair already, and based upon past years...I would say that the cycle is approximately 50% of what I would have guessed it to be had we used nothing at all.  Meaning, he has double that hair I was expecting for this amount of time.

Stay tuned.  Tomorrow is a new day.

 

Tallcool1

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Update.  We have switched to Show Coat.  These pictures are 1 week into the Show Coat formula.

I am not a chemist, but can tell you there are certainly some similarities between the Sure Coat and Show Coat.  They both contain moisturizing components, and both have some type of "menthol" smelling compounds.  The smell will open up your sinuses for sure!  I don't know that it would be fair to say that this steer has really taken off growing hair since we switched...simply because he was already in the mood to grow hair and it was coming on anyway.

What I can say is that the hair is much more manageable on Show Coat than it was on Sure Coat.  He is getting that thick undercoat now whereas he was mostly just putting on length before.  Anyone that knows how to grow hair knows that some of this transformation happens if you put nothing on them.  Before this year, that is what we used...nothing.  No sheen, no Revive, nothing at all.

Anyway, the picture are where we are as of Tuesday.

 

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