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Offline GONEWEST

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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2011, 04:12:43 PM »
I agree fully with rtmcc on all this. Not sure what all this is about comparing horse people to cattle people. If we are going to do that, maybe go watch a high profile dog show someday. There you go, get a lap dog and you can show it for several years!  by wowcows

Another totally irresponsible asinine steer planet statement, comparing a horse show to a dog show.

I certainly don't disagree with rtmcc. However,  the sad thing about the majority of the posters idea on the subject is that your only reason you are against this is "tradition."  David even went a step further in the opposite direction by stating his affinity for the blackout halter, which I like, too. But even that is trendy as evidenced by the new flat colored football, baseball and motorcycle helmets, belt buckles, etc. You want to do it the way is has been just because it has always been done that way, plain. I too believe in tradition. However, as the number of show cattle projects for young people is on the decline, I believe there are things that have to change. If one of those things involves something that makes it more fun for some little girl, what is the harm in that? Why should they be discounted, or gain an advantage for that matter, because they have a bling halter or fancy show stick? It's like saying those pretty ribbons in her hair are ok as long as there are no rhinestones on them. I am certain that this influence comes from the horse show ring as well as current western fashion.

I agree mostly with what sfasu said about the how and why of glitter in the horse show ring. Except for the part about why they do it at all. According the primary task of the glitter is to keep the judge focused on your animal. While in fact it might help to do that, its not the reason. Why does the rose parade require a certain amount of silver be placed on each horse in the parade? Not to keep a judges attention there. Its because its a freakin' SHOW. You don't ride in your barn saddle at a horse show. You don't wear your barn clothes and use your barn tack. You wear show clothes and use show tack because its a SHOW. It's a beauty contest. What is it that makes a cow show different? Is it because they are more noble animals? PULEASE.

 My point of view is that the show cattle project should be made to be as much fun as it possibly can be. It's to the benefit of the industry. I honestly have no thoughts one way or another on rhinestones. This topic is a microcosm of many topics concerning the cattle industry. Some people decide to raise whatever their pleasure and to heck with what everyone else says. Some listen to what their customers want to buy and design their breeding programs around it. Guess which one  is most successful? The customers above, Cattle7 and gobigorgohomegave her thoughts on the topic. You should listen. If you don't think it really means much to these young people, google Kippy and BB Simon and see what they pay for one of those belts.

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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2011, 08:50:15 PM »
Male, father of four children, 2 boys, 2 girls, all showed cattle.  All done now, except breed shows.

I was always taught, that when you are in the showring in a cattle showmanship class, you are showing both the calf and yourself.  Both need to be presented WELL, and APPROPRIATELY!!  The show person has to show off his/her animal, himself/herself and be kn owedgable in their project.

When all of us are fitting our cattle for a show, we do many steps in preparing them to show, " Dye their hair, glue and build their legs, add powders, paint their hooves, fluff their hair, and hold it in place with adhesive, paint many spots, and spray different types of oil all over their bodies.  This is not only approved practices, but expected.   If you want to "show well".   The art and techniques of "fitting" cattle before a show, certainly has changed and evolved.  Most new trends are all excepted.

I guess, with this in mind, is why I do not understand all this hype, disdain, and attention given to the exhibitors apparel and style.  My feeling is this is a cattle show, you are not back home in the barn.  Do you wear the same clothes and "bling", when you go out on a Saturday night for dinner that you do at home doing chores?  More over does everyone, or why should everyone, wear the same clothes out to dinner, as everyone else.  This is not a Dairy Cattle Show where style at some shows dictates black pants, white button-up shirts, and a black bow ties.

Dress and act the part.   I do not like T-Shirts, to me that is NOT dressing the part, or appropriately.  However, bling should be an individual thing, just like what breed of cattle you show, or brand boots you wear, to wear a cowboy hat or not.  It is the decision of the individual exhibitor (and his or her parents), and the type of show they are attending.

I think sometimes we need to be a little more open minded and receptive to change.

For years I was much to serious about showing, and by serious I mean stern, and tough on my kids.  Lets all remember, these are our children  These should be good times, and make good memories for the rest of their lives, win or lose the show.


I now agree with GONEWEST.


LET THEM HAVE SOME FUN!!
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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2011, 07:44:48 AM »
it makes me wonder!!
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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2011, 09:09:29 AM »
GONEWEST AND SEA , You get karma.

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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2011, 10:41:42 AM »
I know better than chime in on this anymore but! You know RTMCC, if Bodie would come into the ring with me judging, or Caroline as far as that goes and had some scuff on his freshly starched jeans and a little grime on him, it would give him more points with me than some of these blinged up girls. At the least I know then that he has at least done some of his own work. I guess since it is still a junior project, right.
I can't tell you how many times I have seen those blinged up showpersons just standing around texting and what have you when Daddy, brothers or the fitters are getting there cattle ready. Barely aware of what is going on with "their" project, just waiting for someone to hand them a halter. Not even trying to scrath that animal so it will stand still.
I don't want though to see these kids come out in front of me looking like they just crawled out from the floor of a chute either. Not that tough to slip off those flyboy pants and clipping jacket and be half presentable.
Yeah, yeah it is a show. A major production is made of it but is what we as adults are to be teaching these kids about life and what they are fixin' to get into.
Ron, there were no showmanship schools when we were growing up. Remember? Our school was learn it or get beat! Before long you will just be the truck driver and bill payer. KCK, you are not that far behind us.
By the way, for some of ya'll. I'm a single white male, 54 and kidless except for those who have taken hold of the purebred cattle thing and wanted to show. No help here for those that just want to go and sit on the box.


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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2011, 02:38:20 PM »
Whoa wowcows.... no offense.... but if you are 54, I am really far behind you <rock>
I just happened to have parents that made work manditory to go to a show. Things are different these days, but I still think understated and educated are better than bling and nothing.

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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2011, 03:09:37 PM »
wowcow you can not possibly state that "blinged up" jr.showman are irresponsible spoiled brats that just walk their heifer in the show ring. you must not be so judgemental just because someone spends money on themselves to look nice at a SHOW. i wear gaudy jewelry and you assume i dont touch my heifer you assume i dont feed her scratch her wake up at 4am to wash her? do you think that i dont do it myself? so some girls you see do that you think all do?

i dont mean to get offended by this post by no means am i but you cant totally judge someone by what they wear. i know a girl who doesnt look anything but plain and SHE is the one texting on the phone 24/7 uses more muscles in her thumbs than anywhere else on her body. everyones different. to me its all about passion not the clothes on your back put me bottom of the line up because i look nice and assume i have no passion and i gaurentee you will leave guilty knowing i stuck better than anyone out here.

i feel like this post should be for people who judge and would like to reach out to their showman or showman wanting to speak out to their judges and the judgementals. whats overboard and whats accepted. and as far as judgement goes charlie sheen wears bowling shirts does that mean he bowls?
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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2011, 03:37:13 PM »
Agreed with gobigorgohome. I do all the work on my heifer expect fit her but you can bet my butt is there scratching her while my fitters are working on her. A girl can work her butt off and go change like twenty minutes before she shows & it may make it look like she doesnt do anything..but trust me, we do!

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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2011, 09:16:00 AM »
ME BAD! I guess I will be a man about this and say I am sorry. I guess I have piled all the blinged up ones into one pile. SORRY, Yes, I realize there are those of you out there that do work and have all it takes, maybe it is those that have the strong thumb muscles that have given me that impression. Again, SORRY and I pray for your forgiviness.


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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2011, 01:04:27 PM »
apologies accepted. judgement shall be reviewed on those who hold the phones not of those who are gaudy. but like most of you i agree that there are boundaries in "bling" but should keep it fun.  (clapping)
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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2011, 10:29:49 AM »
Being a girl who had shown for 13 years now I will say i wear a little bling in the ring. However my cattle do not. Even though I've had heifers that were "diva" enough to wear it. Right now I am arguing with my step sister on a halter she wants from her friend that has cow hide AND huge blinged out conchos on it. If she gets it and i see it on one of my claves i'm gonna rip her a new one. ;D

But as far as the bling I wear it's normally just a belt, a pair of earrings(normally my diamond studs or my rhinestone hoopsthat aren't big), and my silver slide with my sullivans steer pendant on it.

However rodeos are a diffrent story.  ;)
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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2011, 04:51:08 PM »
I'm going to be completely honest. I'm a teenage girl that showed cattle for the first time last year. Ive never been much of a girlie girl (shopping and getting dressed up isnt my thing,, and im not afraid of dirt and bugs) At the first county show at the beginning of last year I took one look around and saw all the girls dressed up in flashyness and things that were just not needed when you are trying to show cattle. Being bothered by these other girls I did go out to the shopping boothes and bought a pair of those oh so popular miss me jeans. (i got the ones with the cowhide on the backpockets,, sparkliness isnt my thing and i still do not believe its appropriate when my cattle have wind up getting $100 pair of jeans dirty in less then 5 mins.). I also went out of my comfort zone to buy a bright colored buttoned-down shirt and a cheap but still very pretty boot shaped necklace. Although I did break down to purchase these items I believe that getting dressed up and wearing a lot of bling isnt important when it comes to showing CATTLE!! This is why I feel much happier at local shows sponsered by ffa chapters where you are required to wear official dress. I also showed in the same top and jeans in every single county show that I did show at and i also plan to use the same outfit this next year. I do see a reason to dress nicely and not looking like you just rolled out of bed but some girls just....
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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2011, 05:13:16 PM »
wearing bling in the ring is just a way of showing enthusiasim for what you are doing. although there are times where it can be alittle much. having some here and there won't hurt anyone though...when it's the halter, the number harness, the belt the boots and the jewelry, then you might be alittle overboard.

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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2011, 06:31:47 AM »

Anyway, I wonder why the flash  is not only accepted in horse shows but expected, while obviously it is frowned upon by many in cattle shows?


Actually in a 4H horse show the dress code is very strict, plain white long sleeve shirt with no design, 4H arm band, dark jeans with no designs on the pocket.  I think the difference in the horse show world is that things are still very segmented, you will certainly see the bling in the breed shows and some of the open shows but not at a 4H show.  For the most part people show 4H\Open or Breed, there are some like our family that show both but it's not very common.

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Re: Show Ring Bling????
« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2011, 11:05:31 AM »
Mom of 4 boys. When showing you put your game face on. Clean Wranglers, good boots, I nice belt, 4-H shirt, or nice button up shirt, cowboy hat, and a smile. If your a parent and you let your girls get blinged out you are encourage your daughter to be looked at as the prize. You are encouraging older men to look at them and you can't even blame the judge when its in his face like that. Keep it reasonable. (pop)
Although I have seen black heifers sprayed with a little sparkle and that does look pretty cool!
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