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Simmental breeding opinions
« on: August 30, 2018, 07:29:16 PM »
Going to be a few months before I need to bred this one, but I like to think about things like this well in advance.  I have few bulls in mind, but to keep it completely unbiased I will keep them to myself for now.  This heifer is a Pays to Believe x Steel Force 3/4 blood, that needs a better tail set, slightly more level hip and some more length from hooks to pins.  Her docility is an issue as well.

I don't need a +20 CE and -5 BW bull, but a +8 CE and 0 BW would be just fine.  Lets see what y'all think!

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2018, 07:40:32 PM »
Another Pic, is a mod able to turn these things to the correct position?

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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2018, 03:45:34 AM »
There are a lot of options in the Simmental breed right now for first calf heifers.  Relentless, Bullseye, Loaded Up and Lover Boy all come to mind for me.  Hard not to stack the Dream On Genetics in any of the breeding, but if you don't mind it a little then Uno Mas might be a good option too.  Lover Boy is out of Duracell, which is a Dream On Son out of Honey Dew.  There are probably some good old school bulls too.  High Regard doesn't have the EPD's to be considered heifer safe, but I've heard they come easy and those are really nice cattle.  We have an Uno Mas bred to Bullseye and really looking forward to that calf, his mature picture is very impressive.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2018, 10:17:30 AM »
CRS we must think a like. A few of those are on my list. Bullseye is a tank of a bull!

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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2018, 12:36:32 PM »
It might be worth taking a look at the Lover Boy bull.  Gib Yardley owns him and he bought him in Denver before he was named the Champion Purebred in 2016, his first calves should be on the ground now and be in their sale later in the year, or the beginning of next.  I really like their program, function, performance and eye appeal.
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2018, 01:57:02 AM »
I like the bullseye idea. Im a lover for colored Simmental and hes been throwing some red and red baldies lately if thats what youre into. A friend I know used a bunch to better believe it, which I know would cross up with your lineage. Maybe something yard key related would work well? I know they arent necessarily show cattle, but it may be enough to pul it out of her. Not sure on heifer soundness on him though.

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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2018, 03:00:21 PM »
I really like WC Red Revolver -With Loaded Up, Dream Catcher and Black Blaze in his immediate pedigree- Hes :one of Wernings best proven CE bulls, and the  real deal  with good ones on the ground AND SURE WORTH $25 a straw.PS the ratty calf following him around is not one of them LOL
 https://cattlevisions.com/detail.php?BullId=4114&bulltype=1 

This is what he looked like in Early Spring  before going out in the West Va  hills to work O0
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2018, 08:46:55 PM »
Wynona16, the heifer is sound and is plenty flashy IMO, she could go back to something a little more "cowy" I'd think.

Mark, I've talked to Gargan some about RR. I have some in the tank and he's on the list as well.

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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2018, 05:41:32 AM »
I would consider WLB Bounty Hunter 365C: http://www.semexusa.com/beef/i?lang=en&beef=view&view=0200SM30721
Another Simmental bull worth looking at is hart State of War.

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Re: Simmental breeding opinions
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2018, 03:16:49 PM »
Wynona16, the heifer is sound and is plenty flashy IMO, she could go back to something a little more "cowy" I'd think.

Mark, I've talked to Gargan some about RR." I have some in the tank and he's on the list as well".
Hes about as thick and clean made as Id use on a hiefer Pretty fronted and clean under his jaw-Which alot of them are not O0

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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2018, 11:20:28 PM »
Wynona16, the heifer is sound and is plenty flashy IMO, she could go back to something a little more "cowy" I'd think.

Mark, I've talked to Gargan some about RR." I have some in the tank and he's on the list as well".
Hes about as thick and clean made as Id use on a hiefer Pretty fronted and clean under his jaw-Which alot of them are not O0
I agree. RR is a super clean fronted bull for a Simmental. Have any heifers hit the ground from him?

 

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