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Simmy bull - W/C Wide Track 694Y
« on: October 16, 2012, 08:13:34 PM »
He is probably too young to have any calves on the ground, but does anyone have any info on him?  Anyone seen him?  Genex has added him to their lineup....looks very interesting....

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Re: Simmy bull - W/C Wide Track 694Y
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 08:59:43 AM »
You're right...Wide Track probably won't have calves on the ground before next spring. He won't be two until March. I noticed that calf in Werning's sale catalog last spring where he ended up topping their sale at $51,000. I noticed him again a week or two ago in a Cattle Visions ad...I hadn't heard he was on Genex's roster yet. Kind of an interesting beast...

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Re: Simmy bull - W/C Wide Track 694Y
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2015, 12:04:34 PM »
SHAWANO, Wis. - Dr. Jon Beever, University of Illinois, has confirmed 1SM00131 W/C WIDE TRACK 694Y is a carrier of Contractural Arachnodactyly (CA), also known as Fawn Calf Syndrome (FCS). Previously, Wide Track, a 15/16 purebred Simmental, was not identified as a population risk because the Angus genetics in his pedigree are back several generations. The American Simmental Association (ASA) TraitTrac system identifies animals up to four generations back as a "population risk." However, it is the policy of the American Simmental Association to test bulls for a panel of defects once they reach the Top 50 Registration list. It was then that Wide Track was identified as a CA carrier.

This is a non-lethal defect but seriously impairs production or has economically significant effect on production or reproduction. The decision has been made to remove Wide Track from the lineup. If you have purchased semen with the past 24 months, Genex will issue a credit on your account for these units. Contact your local representative to initiate this process. Genex will not issue a credit for semen that has been used.

This does not affect the ability to register calves with the ASA. CA is a simple recessive and only half of the offspring from Wide Track will be a carrier. An affected calf will occur only one in four times when two carrier animals are mated. If an effort is made to avoid inbreeding, the mating of a carrier sire to potential or known carrier dams, you would not expect to have any affected calves.

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Re: Simmy bull - W/C Wide Track 694Y
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2015, 04:31:30 PM »
This bums me out a little as he was on the "to use" list this year. 

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Re: Simmy bull - W/C Wide Track 694Y
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2015, 02:48:53 PM »
Put him back on your list, you will really like his calves! This was from Genex this morning.... but I heard it a few days ago that he tested clear.

Important update regarding 1SM00131 W/C WIDE TRACK 694Y: Further testing indicates the bull is free of Contractural Arachnodactyly (CA). Genex has resumed marketing WIDE TRACK semen.

Further Testing Indicates WIDE TRACK is CA Free
Further Testing Indicates WIDE TRACK is CA Free
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http://genex.crinet.com/news2550/FurtherTestingIndicatesWIDETRACKIsCAFree

SHAWANO, Wis. After further testing, Dr. Jon Beever, University of Illinois, has confirmed 1SM00131 W/C WIDE TRACK 694Y to be free of Contractural Arachnodactyly (CA), also known as Fawn Calf Syndrome (FCS). Both his sire and dam were tested free, and to date, 20 progeny have been tested free as well, which prompted further testing. Both Werning Cattle Company of South Dakota and Genex appreciate the Simmental industrys cooperation.
Official Statement from Jon Beever:
In relation to the naming of W/C WIDE TRACK 694Y (2588250) as a CA-carrier, we have conducted further testing that indicates the bull is in fact CA-free, and that the original genotyping was in error. After initially testing the bull as CAC, the test was repeated twice using additional DNA samples isolated at the same time and putatively belonging to the bull, those tests also indicated that the sample was CAC.

Following this testing, the notification of his carrier status was made. However, during a follow-up that included genotyping of the bulls sire and dam, both parents were determined to be CAF. Thus, a new straw of semen was acquired from the bull this morning (May 7) and genotyping completed today. Using this new and independent sample the bull genotypes as CAF.

We are currently in the process of conducting an investigation as to how the error occurred. This should be completed in the next day or two. Currently, we believe that the original sample assigned to the bull was switched during the previous DNA isolation process with one of 65 additional samples handled at the same time.
Genex has resumed marketing semen on WIDE TRACK. For more information or to purchase semen contact your local Genex representative or call customer service at 888.333.1783.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2015, 02:50:38 PM by firesweepranch »
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Re: Simmy bull - W/C Wide Track 694Y
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2015, 02:53:35 PM »
This is awesome!  My friend had two drop last week and he said they are solid little calves with a lot of class.  Good news

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Re: Simmy bull - W/C Wide Track 694Y
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2015, 03:29:22 PM »
It don't get much more funny than that! My sales rep came earlier this week grabbed my 4 units and threw it on the ground and gave me a credit/exchange! I wonder if they destroyed all the inventory?!

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Re: Simmy bull - W/C Wide Track 694Y
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2015, 03:50:31 PM »
Genetic testing mistakes! This is unacceptable. Making a promotional bull or female
a hero to a zero. How many more out there is a mistake. Congrats to the owners of
Wide Track following thru to make it right.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2015, 04:52:05 PM by Sterling Cattle »

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Re: Simmy bull - W/C Wide Track 694Y
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2015, 07:18:25 AM »
I really feel bad for the owners of Wide Track and also those that were selling semen and cattle sired by him over the past few weeks.  At one sale, I saw embryos out of a very good donor go extremely cheap because (I am assuming) they were sired by Wide Track.  In hind sight, I wish I jumped on them.....

I wonder how much money was lost by the owners because of this?  And will people always think of him as a carrier even though he was tested free?  (once that negative opinion is out there, it is hard to move on).  Not a great situation and an unfortunate mistake. 

 

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