Sire to daughter line breeding

What's everyone thoughts on possibly doing that? Too close? Extra consistency going down the road genetics wise? Good idea/bad idea?

Buddy of mine is asking- he's working on a purebred cow base and we do it with our commercial females a lot but never messed with purebreds that way so I guess I can speak and say we personally have had good experiences with it. He is a member I'm sure will chime in later but is on the road away from a computer and wanted me to ask what is the planets take on that. 

I really like a uniform  herd whether your 10 or 10,000 head .  The purebred group you might try  brother x sister mating  vs. sire x daughter?  I have used sire x daugther in the % group and loved it...gave up a little growth in sire x daugther in the purebred group?  Currently using the brother x sister on both groups.
We flushed to a "linebred bull" to a "linebred outcross female" and from the photos all 6 ET's are peas in a pod. There is a little difference in weight ( difference in Recip mother's milk) but the muscle shape, depth of rib and uniformity are what we hoped for in this mating.

breed the best you have, to the best you have-- look at the pedigrees later

-XBAR- said:

breed the best you have, to the best you have-- look at the pedigrees later

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Look at the pedigrees now.

Breed half sibs with the two that are different either compliment each other or are the same type.

Old base SimAngus herd here was pretty tightly linebred for 15 years (read: minimal management - though I was selectively choosing the homebred bulls that were kept.)  Had more than a few sire-daughter matings, and some of those were equally as tightly bred for a generation or two before that.  Started seeing what I interpreted as inbreeding suppression - issues with fertility, disposition, etc.
Gave it up, went in another direction.

That said, I don't shy away from sire-daughter matings, as we're a small (75 cow) commercial herd. Have one S/D heifer that looks like she's gonna be a dandy cow - and will probably have several grandsire/granddaughter matings coming in next spring's calf crop.

I think it's just about as much a genetic crapshoot - roll the dice and take your chances - as selecting an unrelated sire - some of 'em work well, some don't.  All in all, the daughters of the walking Angus sire here - now 9 yrs old - are a notch above those of any other Angus sire we've used AI in the past 7 years.

Hey guys I was wondering on this an had Braden ask. The cattle in question is of the Charolais breed. I have this specific donor that has started to really produce and there is very limited semen on her sire but enough that I would be fine ai-ing a couple with it before flushing. I appreciate the replies. It looks like after her flush this fall we will be breeding we that way to try it out.

My experience with Sire/Daughter matings isn't a very good one... not as far as performance anyway. I really noticed the bone in the cattle went down when that happened. The produced calf looked just fine... not lacking, but it was probably a good 100lbs lighter at weaning than that cow had ever weaned off. That was kind of an oops, but none the less I can't say I personally would try that again, but by the sounds of it some people have had luck with it.