Sprys On Target H189

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justintime

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moderate frame, structurally sound, excellent shoulder angle ( which suggests calving ease), excellent muscle pattern, total outcross pedigree to most anything I have here, good sized testicles that hang straight, smooth made with style and balance.  He also is a dark red color and after using several roan herd bulls, I thought a dark red bull may be in order. He is also smooth polled and possibly is homozygous( we will be testing him). I am constantly looking for outcross sires especially for our ET program and he seems to fit the bill. Right now I am working on embryo inquiries from Central Africa, South America and Asia and this bull seems to fit what they are wanting. I also have a couple ET calves from his grand dam ( Sprys Maid) and they are excellent heifers. I am also hoping he may be a bull that can be used on heifers.  Time will tell.
Also, the owner was willing to price a sizable package of semen at a reasonable price. Now to get it here for a reasonable price as well !

I think he offers some outcross genetics as well to help us design some outcross commercial bulls for our bull customers, and that his offspring will be born easily, and yet have excellent growth.
 

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Do you know what his frame score is?  What about tenderness?  Is his pedigree free of north american genetics?
 

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He is a 6.5 frame and he has no US or Canadian bloodlines until you get  4 generations back. 4 or more generations back DCC Profit, Byland Instant Spotlight and HS Instant Enticer show up, but the rest of his pedigree is Aussie breeding.
His EBVs are above breed average for scrotal size, IMF as well as 200 day weight. Having an above average IMF suggests above average tenderness as well. His weight in Dubbo was 1980 lbs at 27 months of age. Most of that weight would have been " grass pounds".
 

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He does seem athletic. and well muscled.  I agree with the choice of red.  Good luck with your venture.
 

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He was purchased in partnership by a New Zealand breeder so guess ill be able to see progeny next year.He seems to be pretty balanced in his numbers with some good bulls in his pedigree. His IMF isn't above breed av at +0.2 breed av +0.6. Good luck with him will be interesting to see how he breeds in the different places he will be used.
 

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huntaway... you are correct. I read his EBV incorrectly when I looked him up. Regardless of this, I think On Target is worth a try and am looking forward to using him.
 

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Nice looking bull Grant. Congrats on taking a chance and doing something, instead of only complaining about a gene pool that is too small. Looks like he is everything the complainers on here are looking for but wont have the kahunas to try. 
 

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Did see full results somewhere but can't find it.
This years National Shorthorn Show and Sale saw a top price of $17,000 and an overall average of $5372 with 80 of the 90 bulls offered selling for a 91% clearance.

The top priced bull,Lot 96 in Kamilaroi Meat Packer (P) (1060 kgs), was offered by the Calrossy Anglican School at Tamworth and sold to the Outback and Malton studs of NSW.

Other high selling bulls included:
•$12,500 - Ronelle Park Hurricane H242 (P)
•$12,000 - Futurity Hunk H140 (P) - Lot 51
•$11,000 - Kamilaroi Cutting Edge (P) - Lot 74
•$10,500 - Bayview Tradition H64 (P) - Lot 71
•$10,000 - Sprys On Target H189 (P)- Lot 32
•$10,000 - Moombi Ooktali H64 (P) - Lot 6
The female sale, held the day before, saw 8 heifers sell to a top of $4,250 twice and average $4,013. •Lot 204, Futurity Fully Loaded Ruby J6, was the first heifer to make the $4,250 top, selling to James Sheahen Catholic College.
•Lot 211,Eloora Judith J07, also took equal top honours, selling for $4,250.
 

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Just out of curiosity does any one have an idea about what it would cost to import a bull from Australia or New Zealand?
 

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-XBAR- said:
I liked the Hurricane bull a ton-- looks like some others did as well.
Thought he looked good aswell. He was purchased by Bayview Shorthorns in south Australia

beebe said:
Just out of curiosity does any one have an idea about what it would cost to import a bull from Australia or New Zealand?
A New Zealand breeder went to the sale thinking he might go down that track and thought he could do it for 30000 including purchase price. With the added distance your probably looking at more than that. Think the way Grant went getting semen from a breeder your've built a relationship with is a lot easier and probably economical.
 

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huntaway said:
-XBAR- said:
I liked the Hurricane bull a ton-- looks like some others did as well.
Thought he looked good aswell. He was purchased by Bayview Shorthorns in south Australia

beebe said:
Just out of curiosity does any one have an idea about what it would cost to import a bull from Australia or New Zealand?
A New Zealand breeder went to the sale thinking he might go down that track and thought he could do it for 30000 including purchase price. With the added distance your probably looking at more than that. Think the way Grant went getting semen from a breeder your've built a relationship with is a lot easier and probably economical.


I would agree with huntaway in regards to the price of importing a bull from Australia. I was going to "guesstimate" it to cost $30,000 - $50,000 ( including purchase price) to get a bull from Australia to Canada. I have not checked for a number of years, but when I did it was estimated to be around $20,000 for shipping alone. I'm not sure why it costs so much.  When we brought Duke of Dublin from Ireland, we heard of a guy in New York City who was flying a 747 around the world twice each month delivering livestock. Many were race horses but there was also cattle on board. Each animal was crated individually and loaded on the plane and then unloaded at each place. I remember when Duke was unloaded at Toronto, there was also a couple of Limousin bulls from Britain and some high dollar horses going to Japan and some also going on to some Arab countries. 
I just sent a tank of semen and embryos to Ireland and it was almost $1200 to ship it one way. I could have bought a return ticket for myself cheaper. I asked if I could do that and take the tank as carry-on. They didn't think it would work!
 

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So who is the person or persons to talk to about New Zealand and Australia shorthorns.  Who can answer my questions about the breed over there?
 

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We have purchased the Canadian rights in Sprys On Target and am hoping to have semen in Canada by mid October. I will be using him on my fall calving cows and also in several flushes in the coming months. I have heard nothing but good about this bull and am excited to use his genetics soon. We will be offering a limited amount of semen from On Target this fall.
 

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I see he goes back to Shadybrook's Sprys Maid X147 cow. Her offspring seemed popular at Shadybrook's sale! Good to see an interesting bull become available (thumbsup)
 

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Not sure you're using the word "Kahunas" correctly frostbite. Probably need to get a dictionary out.
 

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