TH carriers

how bad do you guys think it is to breed to a bull that is a TH carrier....i really want to breed to monoply but im scared to breed to one wiht TH......

As long as your female is THF you will be fine.

With feeder cattle worth as much as they are i wouldn't breed a carrier to a carrier and throw away that kind of money 25% chance is to much for me!

I agree about the prices! iv heard a lot about this bull and really like him along with the new Walkie talkie bull! but i was just wodering what i should doo! and thanks for your input!

just buy a monopoly steer and ask the seller if they will guarantee he's a carrier with a dna test.

i really don't get the whole breeding carrier thing hoping for one that's clean that looks like he's a carrier when you can just buy one and don't have to go to all the trouble.

Has your cow been tested? Everyone has their own opinion, but mine is I would never breed a carrier to carrier, to much risk. On the other hand I have no problem breeding a carrier to a non carrier.  The only risk in breeding a carrier to a non carrier is that your calf has a 25% chance of being a carrier, but being a carrier doesnt affect one in any negative manner, other than you need to test it to see if its a carrier if you plan on breeding.
Monopoly throws some really good steers, he has definately made his mark.  At the same time he throws really nice heifers as well.  He throws them deep and chubby and thick.  My only knock on him is he may be a little small framed, and he can throw them a little on the smaller framed side.  Thats what was winning everything for a while which is why he is so popular, but my personal belief is we are gonna see a trend to a more average framed calf in the show ring.  But as long as you arent breeding him to a small framed cow you should be fine.

based on your lack of knowledge in the question n, please avoid TH carriers

Zach said:

based on your lack of knowledge in the question n, please avoid TH carriers

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Zack how do you know that the cow he is going to be breeding isn't a TH carrier?  that was never stated so his question might be a very reasonable question. and if she is clean and the poster is just unaware of how TH and PHA works then is there any better place to learn about it then right here on steerplanet?

To the orignal poster: Monopoly seems to be a great bull siring many champions at the moment on a free cow I wouldn't be nervous at all. On a dirty cow I wouldnt take the risk to many awesome th and pha free bulls out there. Good luck.

Rereading my post, it sounds a bit Jody-ish. My apologies Showsister.

AndersenClubCalves said:

Zach said:

based on your lack of knowledge in the question n, please avoid TH carriers

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Zack how do you know that the cow he is going to be breeding isn't a TH carrier?  that was never stated so his question might be a very reasonable question. and if she is clean and the poster is just unaware of how TH and PHA works then is there any better place to learn about it then right here on steerplanet?

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I don't know and i'd venture to guess show sister doesn't either. Look at the question. Obviously (and in no way am I bashing here    )theres a misunderstanding of how TH works. Just breeding to a TH bull in its self does nothing. Breeding a THC to a THC cow is gonna cause problems as most of us know. I'm just saying if there is uncertainty in her cow it is in her best interest to avoid THC bulls not only for her own good ( what if the cow is THC) and to those who she could possibly sell to unaware of the issue.



All the information on TH and PHA can be found if you do a simple search on here, show sister.

Zach said:

All the information on TH and PHA can be found if you do a simple search on here, show sister.

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People don't use the search enough.  There is lots of good info on this site from people who don't post anymore.

twistedhshowstock said:

Has your cow been tested? Everyone has their own opinion, but mine is I would never breed a carrier to carrier, to much risk. On the other hand I have no problem breeding a carrier to a non carrier.  The only risk in breeding a carrier to a non carrier is that your calf has a 25% chance of being a carrier, but being a carrier doesnt affect one in any negative manner, other than you need to test it to see if its a carrier if you plan on breeding.
Monopoly throws some really good steers, he has definately made his mark.  At the same time he throws really nice heifers as well.  He throws them deep and chubby and thick.  My only knock on him is he may be a little small framed, and he can throw them a little on the smaller framed side.  Thats what was winning everything for a while which is why he is so popular, but my personal belief is we are gonna see a trend to a more average framed calf in the show ring.  But as long as you arent breeding him to a small framed cow you should be fine.

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Should read.....The only risk in breeding a carrier to a non carrier is that your calf has a 50% chance of being a carrier

http://www.steerplanet.com/bb/index.php?action=search2

go there and type in "Tibial"

Zack: mabye i dont know as much as some of u about th carriers...but im willing tio learn and just like the other poster said what better place then here. iv only been useing AI for 3 years we are movinbg right up in the show world now getting top 3 n our class at the best shows...id like to keep improving and i needed a bull to shorten on of my cows up...thanks for the opiunion though...

showsister said:

Zack: mabye i dont know as much as some of u about th carriers...but im willing tio learn and just like the other poster said what better place then here. iv only been useing AI for 3 years we are movinbg right up in the show world now getting top 3 n our class at the best shows...id like to keep improving and i needed a bull to shorten on of my cows up...thanks for the opiunion though...

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So use the search tool.

well im new to this and i never thought about it....................

showsister said:

well im new to this and i never thought about it....................

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Sorry I can't resist. Have you thought about it yet?

And just to speed up the process, did you do It yet

What were the results?

I think she meant never thought about using the search tool......

Hate to say it but some people are starting to fill the Cut the BS void that has been so enjoyable.  Zach, there was no reason for you to say "based on your lack of knowledge in the question n, please avoid TH carriers" to someone who is trying to learn what this whole thing is about.  You could have simply stated what you have later posted that there are good posts on this board about the topic and there is an awesome search tool that people don't use enough.

showsister, I have a good relationship with people who are in the know about this very topic.  If the older posts can't answer any of your questions, please feel free to contact me and if I don't know the answer, I can help point you to someone who does.

here's some help

http://www.steerplanet.com/forms/searchresults.php?q=%22TH%22&btnG=Search

My blatant apology isn't enough apparently. I regret nothing.

showsister said:

how bad do you guys think it is to breed to a bull that is a TH carrier....i really want to breed to monoply but im scared to breed to one wiht TH......

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Did you read any of the links yet?