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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2013, 06:59:14 PM »
I would agree, in fact that goes for both bulls in this post so far, the video of the Maine bull is a great teaching example when talking structure. Just because they don't go to Denver does not mean they are overlooked diamonds in the rough.

the white footed shorthorn bull has too much flex to his pastern... in fact, I would like to see him stronger and shorter in the pastern (lol)

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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2013, 07:04:10 PM »
http://www.zntcattle.com/2012/08/newest-video-of-moves-like-jagger.html?m=1

Is this the latest video of him?


Nope, that is an old one that was done in August when he was 11 months old. What you see is what you get when you take pics in August in Texas. I think it was over 100 when that video was done. Just a normal day.
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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2013, 07:15:05 PM »
Here is the last video I did in early November when he was almost 14 months. Still not the best quality video. When Ft Worth is done, I may try to get a new one of him.

http://www.zntcattle.com/2012/11/taking-pre-orders-for-moves-like-jagger.html?m=1
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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2013, 07:18:33 PM »
Nice bull.

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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2013, 07:41:46 PM »
The later video is better. Still wouldn't mind blowing him apart from underneath, and changing the way he strides off the outside of his rear left.

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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2013, 08:25:18 PM »
He definately looks and moves out alot better in the second video,i think i would delete that first vid LOL
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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2013, 09:04:09 AM »
The later video is better. Still wouldn't mind blowing him apart from underneath, and changing the way he strides off the outside of his rear left.

Well if you blow him apart underneath then he dang sure isnt going to hit his stride. The only thing that is keeping him from being crippled is he dont have any belly. JMO

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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2013, 04:00:49 PM »
I've seen this bull in person and he's a hoss, he really is pretty sound for how much mass he has, and he's always had a cool look.
I'm not even gonna comment on the shorthorns since this post was about Jagger ;)

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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2013, 04:26:35 PM »
Hard for me to be too big on a bull that doesn't come close to covering his tracks.  Don't know whether or not thats a big deal in club calf type stuff.
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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2013, 07:34:00 PM »
Do Maine bulls usually have no guts?  Looks so tubular, but am not familiar with this breed.  I didn't watch the video because I don't know where it is.

ETA, never mind the video comment, I see the links now.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2013, 07:34:50 PM by BlkAngus »

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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2013, 08:05:42 PM »
The later video is better. Still wouldn't mind blowing him apart from underneath, and changing the way he strides off the outside of his rear left.

Well if you blow him apart underneath then he dang sure isnt going to hit his stride. The only thing that is keeping him from being crippled is he dont have any belly. JMO

So only cattle that funnel to their base can fill their stride? Rubbing their back feet together on the move is a good thing? As far as the bull in question being so amazingly stout and powerful.....he just doesn't do it for me.

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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2013, 08:29:16 PM »
I do appreciate all the comments on our bull, both good and bad.  I know any time  you put and animal up on this forum, you are setting yourself up for criticism.  I have seen people ask over and over to see a top bull in their working close, and not all covered up in hair, and fat, and whatever else is done to these bull when they are presented.  Well I am doing just that, and presenting a real world bull for the world to see. The public can see the progression of him from being a calf until present, and there has been absolutely no funny business in his presentation.  Some may not the outcome, but this type of transparency is how we do business.

Thanks again for everyone that have viewed our bulls pics and videos, and also thank you to all for your honest feedback.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2013, 08:29:51 PM by ZNT »
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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2013, 09:37:29 AM »
There are not very many breeders that will show you a high percentage, long yearling Maine in a video for good reasons. I commend ZNT for the transparency.





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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2013, 09:55:39 AM »
IMO the real sad truth of the matter is that there are getting to be more & more PPL that can't honestly tell a good one from a bad one & they think it helps them if they are all fit & fed up nice and pretty. I know, I shouldn't post this, but?
Very nice real world bull Zane.

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Re: The bull that wasn't in Denver
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2013, 11:58:21 AM »
All I'll say about the matter is that I bred some of my cows to him back in Dec.

There are very, very few high % exotic bulls that are as deep as little dinky doo British cattle when in proper breeding condition.  That's why so many people think they look bad at an AI stud.  A long bodied, heavily muscled bull never moves like a ballerina.  Whatever else he is or isnt, he's not remotely unsound.

 

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