The Grove Kookaburra W735 calf

Okotoks · Apr 19, 2014

It has been so snowy and muddy it is hard to get any good photos. Here is a pic taken yesterday of a The Grove Kookaburra W735 x Diamond Dottie 55G heifer calf born March 4. We have a full brother plus two paternal brothers out of Butterfield Lady 13N (grandam of Denver Champion bull) A maternal sister was also born in Scotland in February and she was by Glenford Gus 4H. We also have two Diamond Dottie 55G bull calves by Saskvalley Ultra 12J that are looking good.
The second pic is of a Newbiggon Jumbo x Frimley Norma May 48N ET bull calf nursing his recip dam. He is a paternal brother to Gordon Frasers Frimley Union Rising 13U and Alta Cedars Frimley Scarlet May 32S.

JTM · Apr 19, 2014

Really like that Dottie heifer. Very nice!

justintime · Apr 19, 2014

I just purchased a set of 7 embryos from Sprys Shorthorns, Wagga Wagga Australia sired by The Grove Kookaburra W735 and out of Pakaraka Legends Rose A005. Legend's Rose has been a great producer at Sprys and several of her offspring have been some of their best selling animals. A son sold for $28,000 in their 2012 sale. Kookaburra has an amazing set of EBVs and he is highly regards by Aussie breeders as a very good sire. I am really looking forward to getting some calves from these embryos in 2015. Your Dottie heifer looks super! She will be fun to watch develop this summer!

Okotoks · Apr 20, 2014

I looked up Pakaraka Legends Rose A005 and those should be exciting embryos by The Grove Kookaburra W735! Here is her photo. I see she already has a couple of Kookaburra's on the ground at Sprys.

huntaway · Apr 20, 2014

The best bull we've used at moving our herd in the direction we wanted. More moderate, good birth to growth curve and carcass with muscle shape. My semen almost gone so hope to get some bull calves this year. Will look forward to seeing these Canadian calves develop they tick so many boxes for us. Always thought Kookaburra would suit some of the American breeders after moderate framed red commercially oriented bulls.

justintime · Apr 21, 2014

Thanks for your comments huntaway. That is exactly what I have heard from some others who have used Kookaburra as well. I am hoping we can get some good calves from these embryos. It may sound strange to most who read this, but I am wishing I could get a nice roan from this cross ( which isn't going to happen from 2 red parents). The roan and white color continues to get more and more popular here. Right now I am looking for 5-6 Light roan or white bulls to go to a herd of 160 black cows. This guy wants to move his herd to a blue roan color. This is getting more and more common each year.
The Legends Rose cow at Sprys has done it all. I am excited to bring her genetics to our herd as well. Now I just need to have another 100 recips so I can implant all the embryos I want to put in. ( No chance that is going to happen... my wife is convinced we need to reduce our cow numbers more! She actually says there is " life after cows" but I am not convinced yet!)

huntaway · Apr 21, 2014

This is the $28000 son of Pakaraka Legends Rose, There is also a video on the outback shorthorns website. Dan do you have pictures of the calves out of the Butterfield cow she looked pretty impressive.

frostback · Apr 21, 2014

Solid dark red, polled, moderate framed, sound structured.... why are the Americans not looking and bringing semen over on more of these bulls? Too scared to use something unproven and new and not what everyone is? Looks like lots of options out there just not looking hard enough, and doing something to increase the gene pool. Look like some Canadians are a step ahead in the commercial market and the sales up there are proving it.

Okotoks · Apr 22, 2014

You are right Frostback in that there are so many exciting breeding options when you are start looking at what is available around the globe.
Huntaway the Lady bull calves are very young. The one below is 15 days in the photo and was too busy playing to get a decent pic. The photo of Butterfield Lady 13N was taken by Tunderdownunder on one of her visits. I added a second photo of Lady 13N.

huntaway · Apr 24, 2014

Good looking calf, looks like he'll be pretty thick.

Okotoks · Apr 25, 2014

huntaway said:
Good looking calf, looks like he'll be pretty thick.

There is a full brother to that calf that is looking good as well, I will try to get a pic. Here is another Kookaburra out of Diamond Dottie 55G. He was born March 9 so was 46 days in this photo taken yesterday. Rain today and up to 8 cm of snow tomorrow so it isn't great photo taking weather!

Duncraggan · Apr 28, 2014

You seem to be having a good year, that 56B is also excellent!

Okotoks · Apr 29, 2014

Duncraggan said:
You seem to be having a good year, that 56B is also excellent!

In spite of what seems like the longest winter ever we are really happy with this years calf crop, it looks to be our best ever! It includes 19 ET calves so we have calves on the ground from 18 different sires and maybe the most pleasing thing is the uniformity across the entire group. We are planning on using some of these bull calves and it will be a challenge picking out them out!

RyanChandler · Apr 29, 2014

frostback said:
Solid dark red, polled, moderate framed, sound structured.... why are the Americans not looking and bringing semen over on more of these bulls? Too scared to use something unproven and new and not what everyone is? Looks like lots of options out there just not looking hard enough, and doing something to increase the gene pool. Look like some Canadians are a step ahead in the commercial market and the sales up there are proving it.

I've actually been looking at Australian bulls quite a bit-- I've even looked pretty extensively into what it will take to import a live bull. There are many bulls there that would suit me well, but then there are also many tight hided, tight heart/gutted bulls w/ terrible top lines that the Aussies seem to praise as 'forage converters' over there so until I get a chance to go seem them for myself, the verdict w/ me is still out.

So far, this bull here tops my list as the best Australian shorthorn bull I've come across:
http://youtu.be/ilU3ydW0pjY

Okotoks · Apr 29, 2014

-XBAR- said:
frostback said:

Solid dark red, polled, moderate framed, sound structured.... why are the Americans not looking and bringing semen over on more of these bulls? Too scared to use something unproven and new and not what everyone is? Looks like lots of options out there just not looking hard enough, and doing something to increase the gene pool. Look like some Canadians are a step ahead in the commercial market and the sales up there are proving it.

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I've actually been looking at Australian bulls quite a bit-- I've even looked pretty extensively into what it will take to import a live bull. There are many bulls there that would suit me well, but then there are also many tight hided, tight heart/gutted bulls w/ terrible top lines that the Aussies seem to praise as 'forage converters' over there so until I get a chance to go seem them for myself, the verdict w/ me is still out.

So far, this bull here tops my list as the best Australian shorthorn bull I've come across:
http://youtu.be/ilU3ydW0pjY

THE GROVE NEW LEGEND Z058 is a very impressive bull. Interesting that both he and Kookaburra are by US bred sires and Kookaburra is a grandson of The Gove Dale 39th whereas Z058 dam is a double bred Dale 39th.

huntaway · Apr 30, 2014

The Dale 39th cow would be one of the more influential cows in Australia with 36 progeny. Among her sons is Condamine probably second only to Theodore for number of progeny and flush brother to kookaburras dam, Legend A584 sire at Yamburgan and Oscar also at Yamburgan who paid 55000 for a half share. There are also a number of other sons that have sired a large number of progeny and daughters have been high sellers within the breed. kookaburra also has a flush brother, Kingswood that has sired a number of progeny. Don't think there would be a cow appear in more pedigrees in Australia than this one.

Okotoks · Mar 24, 2015

Here is a photo taken today of the 56B calf from earlier in this thread. Diamond Lord Belmore 56B.

mark tenenbaum · Mar 25, 2015

-XBAR- said:
frostback said:

Solid dark red, polled, moderate framed, sound structured.... why are the Americans not looking and bringing semen over on more of these bulls? Too scared to use something unproven and new and not what everyone is? Looks like lots of options out there just not looking hard enough, and doing something to increase the gene pool. Look like some Canadians are a step ahead in the commercial market and the sales up there are proving it.

Click to expand...

I've actually been looking at Australian bulls quite a bit-- I've even looked pretty extensively into what it will take to import a live bull. There are many bulls there that would suit me well, but then there are also many tight hided, tight heart/gutted bulls w/ terrible top lines that the Aussies seem to praise as 'forage converters' over there so until I get a chance to go seem them for myself, the verdict w/ me is still out.

So far, this bull here tops my list as the best Australian shorthorn bull I've come across:
http://youtu.be/ilU3ydW0pjY// Im going to agree with xbar all the way on this one-In the early 90s alot of australian bulls were sampled but they just didnt knick with American cows-at leat for me and people I knew : OTHER THAN SPRYS ATARS AND STRIPES- I thought SPRYS CYCLONE was VERY IMPRESSIVE and his dam- Sprys Prophets Enia (a DCC Prophet-like Stars and Stripes) had to be one of the most impressive cows (in picture) I had seen,and remains so to this day. I bred Granada Destiny-The dam of Questing Destiny- and the CCS Deastinys Best national champion female for Wankels-and whose descendents are still very high end today- TO; Cyclone- ABSOLUTE BUST- I bred the dam of Byland Explosian-who at the time-seemed to sire a few good ones down under-to Cyclone- Even Worse- Ive seen some other examples as well Sprys Zambeasi being the absolute WORST-I see the pictures of these great looking cattle down there- but only in a few intances-and certainely in no numbers-have I seen them up here- I dont know why-WISH it were different-but so far that has been my experience: I would love to use them,if one of our Aussie friends could give me a little guidance O0

librarian · Mar 25, 2015

I was studying the Grove last night.
Results from 2014
The Grove genetics have again highlighted their consistency to perform at the very top end with three pens in the top 12 spots in the weight gain section of the trial. With a massive gain of 3.115kgs/hd/day for the 100 days The Grove's pen of pure Shorthorn steers closely followed by a pen of Durham Blacks who performed at 3.045kgs/day and our Durham Reds who gained at 2.968kgs/day. The fanatastic trial average of 2.791kg/hd/day
Interesting that the pure Shorthorns performed the best.
Isn't 3.11 kg 6.82 lbs?
Graphics from 2012.

Okotoks · Mar 26, 2015

The Grove Kookaburra W735 is a trait leader for both ribeye and IMF (as well as milk) and has had a lot of progeny tested so he has very high accuracies. The fact he comes from a program that win feed trials with the results like those above is exciting. Here is the other calf by him photographed last fall. He is now at Hatfield Shorthorns in Manitoba.

The Grove Kookaburra W735 calf

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