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Re: THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED DIVIDEND_AND THE IRISH CATTLE
« Reply #135 on: July 06, 2012, 07:01:18 PM »
Is there any photo of the AF Double Dynasty bull? I've heard a few people talking about him in the past few weeks. They are supposed to have sold $50,000 worth of pre-booked semen from him already.
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Re: THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED DIVIDEND_AND THE IRISH CATTLE
« Reply #136 on: July 06, 2012, 07:10:16 PM »
Isn't he 3 years old?

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Re: THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED DIVIDEND_AND THE IRISH CATTLE
« Reply #137 on: July 06, 2012, 07:46:39 PM »
I was told they are only releasing semen now?

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Re: THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED DIVIDEND_AND THE IRISH CATTLE
« Reply #138 on: July 06, 2012, 11:50:05 PM »
Here is a bull we bought out of the Canadian Western Agribition in 1982. He is A F DIVIDENDS IMPACT 2nd who is a full brother to A F DIVIDENDS IMPACT.
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« Reply #139 on: July 07, 2012, 12:07:54 AM »
He's way different than what you have now much finer boned and narrower based with less set to his hock and clearly nowhere the volume of bonanza.  Are people creating a headache?
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Re: THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED DIVIDEND_AND THE IRISH CATTLE
« Reply #140 on: July 07, 2012, 08:05:37 AM »
Is there any photo of the AF Double Dynasty bull? I've heard a few people talking about him in the past few weeks. They are supposed to have sold $50,000 worth of pre-booked semen from him already.
Now, in my book, that's good money!

It seems as though all the Alden's cattle I've seen pictures of are red-necked roans, or is it pure coincidence

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Re: THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED DIVIDEND_AND THE IRISH CATTLE
« Reply #141 on: July 07, 2012, 08:17:13 AM »
Knabe during that era there were a lot of gutless wonders around. One thing he did have more of than most bulls around was a fairly good rear quarter.
A good thread to start would be " Bulls of the 80's" you sure would see some interesting bulls.
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Re: THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED DIVIDEND_AND THE IRISH CATTLE
« Reply #142 on: July 09, 2012, 10:55:57 AM »
We owned a Dividend son out of NPS Mirage registration # *x4069857.  We only had him a short time before we lost him to injury.  We kept a few daughters that have been culled down to I think three registered cows.  Some of them were on the hard keeping side.  What he really work well on was some smaller framed Angus based cross bred cows.  We have a handful of blue roan cross bred cows that are his daughters that are awesome cows.  They always raise the biggest and best calves.  We have kept some of them that would actually be 7/8 shorthorn but we have never registered them,  Probably one of my many mistakes.  I should have collected him.

To think about it we have a shorthorn marked Headliner steer calf out of one of his granddaughters that looks very good.
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Re: THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED DIVIDEND_AND THE IRISH CATTLE
« Reply #143 on: July 09, 2012, 02:58:51 PM »
He's way different than what you have now much finer boned and narrower based with less set to his hock and clearly nowhere the volume of bonanza.  Are people creating a headache?



Why would more volume create more headaches? To much of anything is bad obviously but I'm curious.

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Re: THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED DIVIDEND_AND THE IRISH CATTLE
« Reply #144 on: July 09, 2012, 09:20:07 PM »
He's way different than what you have now much finer boned and narrower based with less set to his hock and clearly nowhere the volume of bonanza.  Are people creating a headache?



Why would more volume create more headaches? To much of anything is bad obviously but I'm curious.

The headache would be trying to get the volume back in.
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Re: THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED DIVIDEND_AND THE IRISH CATTLE
« Reply #145 on: July 10, 2012, 11:24:36 AM »
So your saying plugging these bulls in now would hinder not improve today's lines? Sorry I didn't get it for awhile.

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Re: THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED DIVIDEND_AND THE IRISH CATTLE
« Reply #146 on: July 10, 2012, 11:41:52 AM »
I wonder how much feeding has to do with some of these cattle not having guts in the 80s.  It would be interesting to have those embryos and feed them the high fiber diets that we feed today to show calves  and see how they turn out.  Not saying they would be belly draggers but wonder how much you could drop them.

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Re: THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED DIVIDEND_AND THE IRISH CATTLE
« Reply #147 on: August 31, 2022, 01:57:24 PM »
Dividends Impact himself was anything but a gutless wonder from the progeny I have seen over the years O0

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Re: THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED DIVIDEND_AND THE IRISH CATTLE
« Reply #148 on: August 31, 2022, 10:35:25 PM »
So what breeding was the 13th bull in ur opinion. What was his "cross"? if u will

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Re: THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED DIVIDEND_AND THE IRISH CATTLE
« Reply #149 on: September 03, 2022, 10:20:16 AM »
This thread helps refresh or teach us about what those Irish animals were really like. 

What AI bulls have great feet?  Which bull was truly calving ease?  A good attitude is found in certain bloodlines.  Within this thread and others on SP there are answers to many questions.   

Several of my favorite cattle trace have some Irish heritage, very far back in their pedigrees.  JJC Wild Side bull was nearly 10 years old in 2011 when we purchased him.  I'd looked at Wild Side's pedigree and saw no Improver in him, but lots of Dividend and other Leader breeding.  However, back in his pedigree, Improver was there 3 times--what was going on 40 years ago is still relevant.

Inheritance is about passing along physical traits and genes, both good and bad.     

 

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