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Offline andholl

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The new heifer
« on: June 23, 2012, 11:34:32 PM »
Got the new heifer on feed. She is a PB Simmy.  She is an explorer x sheza babe. What do you think? What would you breed or flush her to?
First picture is of a show a month ago. The others are just a few i took in the barn a couple weeks later.







« Last Edit: June 24, 2012, 12:33:10 AM by andholl »

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Re: The new heifer
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2012, 06:22:44 AM »
What would you want the calf to be? Clubby, purebred simmi, simangus? I would probably stick to an angus bull just to get a live calf, but thats jmo.

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Re: The new heifer
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2012, 10:17:38 AM »
Very nice heifer good luck with her

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Re: The new heifer
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2012, 12:48:46 PM »
Nice heifer calf... As a Simmie breeder, I've raised a few SimAngus, too, and now manage a herd of cattle where we're primarily working to make baldy SimAngus babies out of Angus or SimAngus cows. I like the idea of an Angus bull on Simmie heifers for a couple reasons, one being the calving ease aspect, but there are plenty of Simmental bulls that are perfectly acceptable for heifers as well if you want a purebred calf. And keep in mind that just because a bull is an Angus, that doesn't guarantee small calves or great calving ease! Considering an Angus, though, does give you a lot more options. I try to stick to proven bulls on heifers for the most part, and realize I'm taking a bit of a risk with any unproven bull, no matter what breed he is or what his numbers suggest he SHOULD be.

The other thing about using an Angus bull on a lot of Simmental females is the increased depth of flank and fleshing ability you get as a result, IF you pick the right Angus bull. You can get critical of any female, and if you think about what you might change about your heifer, an Angus bull might do the trick...deepen her flank, pretty up her head & neck... She's a nice heifer and looks like she ought to contribute the muscle and bone and performance that makes the Simmental x Angus cross click so well. We have a few cows in our Simmie herd that I try to AI to an Angus bull every year because I just think they're made for that cross.

In any case, there are plenty of purebred Simmies, percentage bulls and Angus bulls to choose from...and I don't have anything against club calf bulls, but I can't think of any reason I would ever use a club calf bull on that female. JMO...

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Re: The new heifer
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2012, 02:14:55 PM »
I would like a pb simmy or a high percentage so I can have a pb calf.

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Re: The new heifer
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2012, 02:23:49 PM »
Nice looking heifer..Good luck finding a match for her!!

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Re: The new heifer
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2012, 02:26:33 PM »
Nice heifer! (clapping)
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Re: The new heifer
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2012, 02:31:28 PM »
 Don't know much about thebulls in her pedigree, but I might try Dream Catcher, or if you want solid black In Dew Time might make a good choice.

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Re: The new heifer
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2012, 05:33:26 PM »
Take a look at Longs Shear Pleasure and MCM Top Grade. Both are homozygous black & homozygous polled 3/4 bloods with really good numbers. Shear Pleasure is a baldy son of Shear Force, and Top Grade is by Upgrade, and he's solid black. Their both unproven, though, so that's the downside...always the downside to using the exciting new bulls out there! I've had a few Shear Pleasures, and I do like them. They're nice fronted with a lot of top & extra length. The birth weights were all real moderate except for one, and I lost him. We'll have some Top Grades next spring. And a 3/4 blood bull on a purebred female will give you a purebred calf...

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Re: The new heifer
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2012, 06:09:22 PM »
I had a little ol heifer like her that i ended up keeping from a batch of stocker calves, I ended up breeding her to Carpe Diem, her first calf, because thats about all I had that would fit close enough, I had a solid red big boned stout, clean fronted little calf, no assist, just saying it worked pretty good for me, others may not agree, but for a first calf it looks very good. Hope it helps.

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Re: The new heifer
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2012, 12:38:09 AM »
Here is an updated photo. I am going to breed her next month but I still haven't decided what I am going to breed her to and i'm still open to suggestions. I have been thinking about American Pride (Upgrade), Brooks Big Iron, and Pays to Dream.  ??? The heifer's biggest issues are soundness and her masculine neck. I think the soundness issue is derived from the straight shoulder although she isn't perfect on her feet and legs either. She is a September 6. What do y'all think?



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Re: The new heifer
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2012, 08:47:18 AM »
Shes a pwerfull female-Id breed her to Beathe Easy or Jesse James-JMO- O0

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Re: The new heifer
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2012, 08:53:45 AM »
She looks pretty powerful, I would breed her to Built Right for her first calf. He throws them little, almost always puts white on them, really cleans up the front end and will add depth. Plus, if you get a heifer, Built Right females make some of the best dams, small perfect udders and teat placement, and make great cows to show as pairs later down the line.
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Re: The new heifer
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2012, 10:07:19 AM »
How unsound is she?  If she is walking stiff or off it is not because it feels good to move. 

I don't fool around with soundness issues.  You can breed some muscle, bone, hair, neck, rib, hair, into and out of them but multiple structure problems are tough.   I don't remember seeing one with a straight shoulder get better with age. 

If you are going to insist you have to keep her then use as free of a moving Angus bull as you can find.  He might not meet any other criteria but at least you have a shot at getting one that will walk.

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Re: The new heifer
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2012, 07:40:37 PM »
Ill second Built Right, think he would work on your heifer.   All the calves we have had out of him have been sound but they have been out of pretty sound cows so not sure if he will help or not but i dont think he will hurt you.   Id avoid Upgrade lines if I were you, we love our Upgrades but he doesnt make them great fronted so with your heifer Id go a different way.

 

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