BIM is not really all that new...he is a March 2010 bull that was in Denver in January and got quite a bit of hype. A lot of people liked him a lot, and I know a lot of people used him this spring so we shouldnt have to long to wait to see how he does. My personal opinion, he is ok, I wasnt wowed by anything that was in Denver this year, so we will wait and see how his calves do. I dont think he is necessarily a midge, but I do think he is to small for where I think the industry is headed, does that mean he has no use, absolutely not there are plenty of huge framed cows out there that need to be downsized. So just wait and see how he produces, because I will also say I was never really impressed with HeatWave or Monopoly when they were promoted, but they have sure proven themselves as producers, no arguing with that.