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showemall

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Purchased this female a few weeks back, what's everyone's thoughts on her? She's a nov 2012 upgrade. What would you recommend breeding her to down the road?
 

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Wow! She takes an awesome picture. Wish she was at my place. Others on here prob have better breeding advice but I'd strongly consider Make IT Rain if she were mine.
 

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I used Upgrade on some Grandmaster heifers this spring. Ill let you know in March if that way worked. I love Grandmaster cows.
 

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I'm going to STRONGLY second Grandmaster with her being a heifer. You would then have a Upgrade / Grandmaster offspring that could go any direction with Dream On influences if you want. 
My second choice would be Combustable or Uno Mas.  Have been absolutely impressed with Combustable and Uno Mas calves I saw this year.  Sunset Simmental in Oregon used them with great success.  I believe Rich has a Upgrade heifer that was winning everywhere and she is either going Combustable or Uno Mas this year.
 

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Grandmaster will put too much neck leather on her , been there done that ! All depends what your after I guess ! Very nice heifer by the way !!!
 

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I havent had a chance to learn his pedigree but Trausch has a CE bull called Tailgator who is a fullsib or something to Hartmans closed (to mere mortals) Simm. bull. Hes supposed to be CE- hiefer safe and at least from the picture: was way cool looking-especially in the leather dept.  O0
 

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The more I look, I think Combustible would be cool.  But might not be super heifer safe, although I know of people that have used him with no problems.
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Steel Force x Burn Baby Burn
 

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showemall said:
Purchased this female a few weeks back, what's everyone's thoughts on her? She's a nov 2012 upgrade. What would you recommend breeding her to down the road?

I was at the Sweepstakes Sale and was quite interested in this female. It was a real pleasure meeting the Bramlet family also. Quality folks with an excellent program.
Nice heifer! Very flashy and placed well in the show the next day too.
Congrats!
 

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This is a Grandmaster out of a full sister to Combustible's dam.  Would not call her leathery fronted. I have a half dozen GMs and love them all. Even use a son as clean up. No bad fronts on any.
 

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I want the best bet the farm simmy heifer bull around for this female.  To me that means a negative birth weight EPD and decent growth numbers. OLF Odin U5 should suit her needs very well.  No point in rushing things with this quality female.
 

showemall

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Thanks for everyone's opinion so far, I do want something that's proven calving ease for that first calf so I'm also considering angus as well.

Also considering I-80?
 

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I'm sure she wasn't cheap, so I would lean towards a low bw Angus first go round to be safe and steer clear of anything Maine or clubby. 9 out of 10 times i80 is safe but I know of a few train wrecks with him so I wouldn't risk it with a female like her. I'd personally look at Confidence the Angus bull. He's a really cool looking sire
 

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I don't know this heifer's bottom side, but we've used Built Right on the Dream On free Upgrades and have had excellent success.  Had a $8000 Built Right bull out of an Upgrade heifer last year, and she has a killer baldy heifer this year by the same bull. 

My only concern here would be that you could get too much white...

What is the bottom side of this heifer?
 

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So I'm going back to my original post / comment after reading what owner wants. You want simmy and calving ease -Grandmaster.  I also agree strongly with Frostback.  We bred four sim/ang heifers that the kids showed last year all to Grandmaster.  All four calves were heifers, with BW of 64-69 pounds.  Easiest calving I have ever had in my life and calves were up and bucking before mom had bags completely licked off of them.  The calves are phenominal.  Not leathery up front at all.  They do come out long and leggy but after a couple weeks, they grow like weeds. Either I got lucky or the others who post negative about Grandmaster calves had bad luck. So I guess 6 one way, half a dozen another.  I know there are several on this site with Grandmaster females not only making exceptional outcrosses to the overwhelming amount of Dream On influences, but also winning. 
My Grandmaster heifers will be bred to Uno Mas (because I've seen and touched a couple this summer and they are awesome). And he is calving ease.   
 

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With Meyer in there already, unless you are willing to risk extra white, I'd probably pull my mating choice of Built Right off the table.  Could be lots of chrome there.  I've seen some really nice BR's out of Meyer cows though....

 
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