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Re: Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.
« Reply #90 on: February 04, 2019, 10:23:14 AM »
Reference on shorthorns being the most tender breed.


I got this December 2014 quote from a Farmers Weekly article.

"The US Department of Agricultures Meat Animal Research Center (MARC) ranks the Beef Shorthorn as one of the best performers in the world in terms of calving ease, average daily gain, marbling and carcass quality.
Research at MARC has shown the Shorthorn to achieve the best 200-day weight of any English breed. Its combination of marbling and cutability is extremely rare and evidence of exceptional carcass quality.
The Beef Shorthorn carries two copies of the GeneSTAR tenderness gene, meaning its meat is tender 97% of the time, compared to 78% in the Angus and 70% in the Hereford."

Cannot find the source for the original data however.
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Re: Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.
« Reply #91 on: February 04, 2019, 10:30:24 AM »
Really good search on the endangered breeds those Lincoln Reds are still probably the stoutest original endangered cattle around.In 1991 I did see a herd of blue grey cows in Devon but we couldnt really get any good pictures. We stayed with my then fiances girls school best friend and they had a herd of solid red polled cattle-that are surely extinct-I dont even remember what they called-maybe red galloways ot polled Devons-they didnt have much hair and were not made like dual purpose cattle. As for the MARC deal:thats a very good synopsis-I havent had time to go over the sire group involved-Would Maybe someone could list a few?-I am going to guess that the Gold-(Back to Goldwalk and or other Enticer relatives) and in general the Waukaru  bulls played a part.  O0
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Re: Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.
« Reply #92 on: February 04, 2019, 03:49:19 PM »
How did they get all that hair on his lower quarter. //// Well he was from Canada-dont tell XLAX Jit had anything to do with him LOL O0

Almost looks fake.

Nice looking bull.

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Re: Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.
« Reply #93 on: February 04, 2019, 04:16:10 PM »
We have a couple yearling females sired by JR Legacy 23G.  One of his owners described him as having the "right kind of thickness."  Yes, I like them thick, but any trait taken to extreme may have unintended consequences. //// I agree entirely-If the balance swings too far the other way -EG embarrassingly narrow made dairy looking cattle, it tales one a little more extreme to start the change or just get rid of them O0

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Re: Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.
« Reply #95 on: February 04, 2019, 05:51:57 PM »
That is very old data and no longer accepted.

Lots of cattle from different breeds that are homo for all 3 markers including fullblood maines.

Fullblood maines and prob high % purebreds are probably fixed for T1

T2 is not common in most breeds.

Epl prospector 242p is homo for t1 and t2.

He is the sire of two fullblood calves at this past naile show.

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Re: Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.
« Reply #96 on: February 04, 2019, 06:01:15 PM »
Fair enough. Can you show me the most recent data ?
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Re: Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.
« Reply #97 on: February 04, 2019, 06:16:39 PM »
So.......is it correct that the Shorthorns have two copies of the Genestar gene?  Seems like to me that that would encourage some direct marketing..........or give one the confidence to do so.
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Re: Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.
« Reply #98 on: February 04, 2019, 06:18:04 PM »
Howzabowt showing the bottom line results for the Marc study-Maybe which shorthorn sires in the deal   brought home the bacon O0

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Re: Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.
« Reply #99 on: February 04, 2019, 06:30:40 PM »
Howzabowt showing the bottom line results for the Marc study-Maybe which shorthorn sires in the deal   brought home the bacon O0

I looked but couldnt find the breed by breed results. Hopefully somebody can point that out for us.
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Re: Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.
« Reply #100 on: February 04, 2019, 06:35:56 PM »
Look into Fringe. Thickest heifer we have ever had was sired by him. We flushed that cow to him and got 6 embryos, but haven't put any in yet. Don't have anything big enough on the farm to have that calf right now lol

Should be noted that we only had 1 calf out of him, so not a real big sample size, to say the least.

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Re: Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.
« Reply #101 on: February 04, 2019, 07:13:03 PM »
With Mark T outsourcing all his cattle and JIT always having 100% unassisted calf crops, what a great opportunity to sell the embryos to Mark who could them partner with JIT to calve them out.   Be careful though, the details there after will become extremely convoluted and who knows you might even end up receiving a call from the Sheik of Fantasia. 
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Re: Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.
« Reply #102 on: February 04, 2019, 07:58:40 PM »
From the looks of the pictures I saw you could have one hell of a coop herd XLAX Enterprises-but this thread is about thick bulls that have the look and meet the needs of discriminating O0 commercial breeders-NOT UNLIKE YOURSELF-HERES MY CHOICE- Please contact Saheed Shtshoot-our international ssssssselezzzman for your next carpet ride-it appears one wasnt enoughO0
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Re: Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.
« Reply #103 on: February 04, 2019, 08:24:44 PM »
Oh trust me- one was more than enough
   
 
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Re: Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.
« Reply #104 on: February 04, 2019, 08:26:42 PM »
Lmao mark!!
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