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« on: April 08, 2014, 01:24:54 PM »
http://www.infowars.com/armed-feds-prepare-for-showdown-with-nevada-cattle-rancher/

Absolutely ridiculous. Kudos to the people at Lautner's for posting it on their blog so it came to my attention.
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2014, 01:46:34 PM »
Bundy is essentially stealing by grazing land he has no claim to.  What is there to defend?
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2014, 01:58:43 PM »
Bundy is essentially stealing by grazing land he has no claim to.  What is there to defend?


your logic. i thought you were against the police state.  i guess it's fine to steal things that don't belong to you if you are a progressive.


nice.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2014, 01:59:57 PM »
I was just ready to ask for Knabe's insight.

Please visit Mr. Bundy's YouTube page and watch some of his documentaries.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2014, 02:08:45 PM »
if people were really worried about the desert tortoise, they would have voted reid out years ago and thrown him in jail and curtailed development where the tortoises used to be. 

we all get it that the left is not really interested in the environment, but simply worshipping themselves and wrapping themselves in circular logic.

no guns at fort hood, but the federal government is obsessed with drawing weapons on those who disagree with them.

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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2014, 02:21:01 PM »
His cattle (creatures native to the land for how many years?) are disrupting the tortoises way of life, but the implantation of ground troops, police traffic, and traffic of hundreds of trucks and trailers and supply vehicles aren't?

The government does not care about the environment. They are simply puppets working for a corporation, most likely one wanting to open pit mine this area (Paying little to no fee to do so, while also creating devastating effects over a thousand times worse than Mr. Bundy's cattle.)

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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2014, 02:21:48 PM »
this is pretty funny.


http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/administration/202932-holder-claims-vast-amount-of-discretion-in-enforcing-law

There is a vast amount of discretion that a president has and more specifically that an attorney general has, Holder responded. But that discretion has to be used in an appropriate way so that your acting consistent with the aims of the statute but at the same time making sure that you are acting in a way that is consistent with our values, consistent with the Constitution and protecting the American people."


translation, the progressive left's values.  the only enemy of the left is the american people who disagree with them.  they state it openly over and over.  funny the ad preceding the video is about free speech, something both sides would like to restrict, but more so, the left.
Obama to Latinos "Punish Our Enemies" (american citizens)

dude always has his sleeves rolled up to look like he's working and he jogs up the stairs on air force one and the media shows it over and over to reinforce a projectionable personality that he's working for us when nothing could be further from the truth.  both the left and the right absolutely hate small business and for the life of them can't figure out how to write laws that are good for ANY size company.  therein lies the tyranny of our government, which is essentially a facist state (regardless of which party is in power)
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Re: Tyranny
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2014, 02:27:30 PM »
Bundy is essentially stealing by grazing land he has no claim to.  What is there to defend?


i thought you were against the police state. 

nice.

No, I'm against arbitrary local authority. 

I could care less about the tortoises- though, I'm glad some take an interest in their preservation.   If they were to take the tortoise issue away, which really that's a non issue, I find it hard to believe anyone on here would defend this man's practice of grazing land he has no claim to. 
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2014, 02:30:12 PM »


There is a vast amount of discretion that a president has and more specifically that an attorney general has, Holder responded. But that discretion has to be used in an appropriate way so that your acting consistent with the aims of the statute but at the same time making sure that you are acting in a way that is consistent with our values, consistent with the Constitution and protecting the American people."


translation, the progressive left's values
You're right.  The values of the majority.  We live in a representative democracy.  Majority rules.  The minority interest has no choice.
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2014, 02:32:12 PM »
How about Dave Bundy, his son who was taken political prisoner for expressing his first amendment right by protesting?
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2014, 02:41:05 PM »
This is exactly what the Second Ammendment is for, to protect ourself against a belligerent government unlawfully attacking it's citizens.
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2014, 02:46:07 PM »
You're right.  The values of the majority.  We live in a representative democracy.  Majority rules.  The minority interest has no choice.

Yeah. Just ignore the house. I'm sure you will hold me to that sentiment if democrats lose the senate and want the filibuster reinstated.

You seem to forget our country was founded on principles to protect minorities and their opinions from people lIke you. It's amazing how little you know about protecting minorities.

With each post, you demonstrate you complete hatred of diversity and tolerance. We understand that with you and the progressive movement that compromise is a one way street with you. Your irritation is proof of you disdain of those who disagree with.

Check your upper lip, it needs a shave.

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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2014, 02:58:48 PM »
This is exactly what the Second Ammendment is for, to protect ourself against a belligerent government unlawfully attacking it's citizens.

Since Bundy has no legal claim to the land, what is unlawful about the Govt removing him from it?

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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2014, 03:24:58 PM »


You seem to forget our country was founded on principles to protect minorities and their opinions from people lIke you. It's amazing how little you know about protecting minorities.



which election is it again that's won by the minority of votes?
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2014, 03:46:40 PM »
Bundy stopped paying his BLM leases in the 90's.  Also I have seen different articles state that his family had threatened violence against the blm officials so yes that does give them the right to arrest the man.  Sorry but this is a bunch of bs trying to protect a man that had been stealing for years from the USA.  They had tried before to get them to get off and stopped because of fear of a armed retaliation.  Last I saw the Nevada Cattlemans assoc. has not backed him yet and probably wont.  He didn't pay rent now he got evicted... Wait am I actually on XBARS side on a semi political issue???  crap.
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