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PinkOil Princess

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I have a Monopoly X PB Char cow that I am having trouble deciding what to do with this breeding season. Her first calf that she has now is sired by SAV Brilliance and I think he is looking good but I would like to try a different pairing. I am torn in either going the composite route and pairing her with Simple Math or going towards her Charolais roots and pairing her with BIG Creek Game Changer. I would love to see prodigy pics from either bull if you've got them.
She's a stout and powerful cow but I'd like to aim to get a replacement heifer out of her this time around if I can
 

zac_norwood

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IF your looking for PB char, I'd look into the gun smoke bull Matt lautner is currently advertising. Seems to click well with the cows with clubby in them.
 

PinkOil Princess

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Still very interested in people's thoughts on Simple Math he seemed to be a good site that's been forgotten about in all the hype. I'm not 100% sold on him just interested in your thoughts. Doesn't seem to be much on here about him either
 

DSCSD

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A guy I do some clipping and fitting for had a few last year.... he wasn't very impressed with at all.... the 1 steer I worked on had a lot of grow to him.... could of just used him on all the wrong cows!
 

ferkj

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We've had around a dozen simple math calves. The steers we got were saleable calves, nothing super but no throw aways either. The heifers we got shaved turned into really good cows. Calves were born easily n were good on structure n design. Most of the cows were Maine x Angus. Hes a good bull that never go hyper up in the clubby world.
 

SimFarmer

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I had some semen left so i bred an old pb sim show cow that had too much neck and not enough  muscle. Had a big heifer calf that had ti be pulled (second calf heifer probably  would have had it but i git impatient from watching for 24 hours until 2am). calf is a month old and looking good! She isn't the best calf out in the pasture but at the top, thick topped, sound structurally, good disposition and slim necked. I will use him again.
 

Mark H

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For pictures of the Game Changer bull go to the Big Creek Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/bigcreekcharolais
Other Charolais bulls that are no brainers such as Firewater, Montezuma or Game On.
The new Genex headliner is also worth loking at.  MVY XPLORER 21X was the 2012 CCA BOSS Show bull and is a true calving ease pospect with a BWT EPD of -8.0 and yearling EPD of 95!  Here is his ad: http://www.charolaisbanner.com/trin/2015/xplorer.gif  Here is the the TRI N bull sale where they sold his get: http://issuu.com/pdrneepawa/docs/classic_catalogue_for_web?e=2717029/11709357  Not bad for a heifer bull.
 

admidolo

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SC Full Throttle 414 Could work really well for you. I raised him and just got him collected. Hes registered charolais and paternal brother to the heifer calf in the pic below
 

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Mark H

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Simmons,

That bull looks too young to have any calves on the ground yet.  Has he won any shows or placed?  What are his EPDs like?
 

admidolo

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The bull is only a year old. Semen was collected 2 weeks ago. I have not had any calves out of him yet. I have not hauled him anywhere. He was one that we liked as a calf and just kept him at home. His sire RCS Daytona 500 was shown and won a lot back in 06-08 and has sired a couple of really nice heifers. Other than that Daytona hasn't been used much. His Dam is a Gridmaker cow

CE = .1
BW = 2.1
WW = 20
YW = 40
Milk = 5
MCE = 1.7
MTL = 14
SC = .1

I am not sure about the epd accuracy because his sire has not been used much and his SC was 35 at 11 months old.
 

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